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    LTW skill help please

    Getting to the point where bar is getting full with skills. Lvl 53 cant seem to understand many of the skills other than the basic stuff like restores durability by X. The earth affinity thing never shows up on anything...inner quite seems expensive to use...and do nothing for one step? Got it gets confusing is there any type of guide that makes sense of all this? Any help would be appreciated.
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    I also would have pointed you to Caimie's guide. Read it around when i got my first crafter to 50, and it really helped me figure the rest out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    I also would have pointed you to Caimie's guide. Read it around when i got my first crafter to 50, and it really helped me figure the rest out.
    Awesome guide. Thanks!! finally some direction!!
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    Dude you got to level 53 without using Inner Quiet? You are going to be so amazed at how much easier your life could have been for, like, half of that at least, if you can get a good grasp on what you could be capable of.

    Re: Brand of Earth (or any Brand), in my experience up to 50, mostly only ever shows up on "Vintage" type equipment, crafts where you're taking some broken junk equipment maybe picked up from a dungeon or leve, and turning it into something half useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    I also would have pointed you to Caimie's guide. Read it around when i got my first crafter to 50, and it really helped me figure the rest out.
    Glad it helped

    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Dude you got to level 53 without using Inner Quiet? You are going to be so amazed at how much easier your life could have been for, like, half of that at least, if you can get a good grasp on what you could be capable of.

    Re: Brand of Earth (or any Brand), in my experience up to 50, mostly only ever shows up on "Vintage" type equipment, crafts where you're taking some broken junk equipment maybe picked up from a dungeon or leve, and turning it into something half useful.
    Yeah, it also amazes me that someone would be level 53 without even using Inner Quiet... Maybe this very old link will also help Renius:
    http://ffxivrealm.com/threads/doh-cr...8/#post-158506
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    I'm gonna take a guess and think maybe what happened was OP didn't do much HQ crafting? "Inner quiet seems expensive" so maybe didn't spend much CP on Touch moves. I know in my early days I had a similar sentiment, I never had enough CP/durability to really get the IQ stacks up to an appreciable amount. It took a significant shift in my approach around level 30 to really start making use of what I had available. Also wonder if LTW is the only crafter OP has focused up, could contribute to an incomplete tool kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    I'm gonna take a guess and think maybe what happened was OP didn't do much HQ crafting? "Inner quiet seems expensive" so maybe didn't spend much CP on Touch moves. I know in my early days I had a similar sentiment, I never had enough CP/durability to really get the IQ stacks up to an appreciable amount. It took a significant shift in my approach around level 30 to really start making use of what I had available. Also wonder if LTW is the only crafter OP has focused up, could contribute to an incomplete tool kit.
    All of this is correct. Question is how do I take full advantage of these abilities? CP is only at 305 at the moment and wasting it is horrible. Just last nite though I figured that when a recipe fails you don't really lose the items, just the recipe fails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renius View Post
    All of this is correct. Question is how do I take full advantage of these abilities? CP is only at 305 at the moment and wasting it is horrible. Just last nite though I figured that when a recipe fails you don't really lose the items, just the recipe fails.
    Please check out Chapter 12A and 12B. I have 5 to 6 examples in there demonstrating how to craft with less than 300 CP, yet still capable of reaching Inner Quiet 7 to 10.
    Hope it helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renius View Post
    All of this is correct. Question is how do I take full advantage of these abilities? CP is only at 305 at the moment and wasting it is horrible. Just last nite though I figured that when a recipe fails you don't really lose the items, just the recipe fails.
    Sometimes you still lose the items. I've heard it said that the higher your HQ%, the greater the chances of getting your items back.

    For CP, though the guide has already been pointed out, many players (or at least myself, personal experience) settle into a method that conserves CP for durability management, to keep a craft going long enough to pull off enough Hasty Touches (cross class skill, no CP cost) to get to a high HQ%.

    On the Inner Quiet debate, let's not forget how Rumination can offer a partial (or better) return on CP investment (even without considering Byregot's contribution).
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