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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    You'll find a better FC. One which fits you and doesn't force you act in a way you're not comfortable with.
    thanks. I apologize for coming off as hostile. I was so blindsided by the kick that I didn't know what to feel. I never told anyone about the report and was waiting for a GM (I honestly was just scared of a rmt) when the kick happened. I was never told about a trial period or what was expected in the FC I was just let in by a different and much friendlier person who was a lot of help in my dps training.

    I waited to buy a room and felt especially cheated when I was kicked not even an hour after I settled in.
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  2. #22
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    Something just occurred to me. This "person I've never seen before" might have just as well been the main character of someone who had recently been playing their alt a lot. So while you had been nice and helpfull in their presence earlier, you seemingly suddenly turned (seemingly) annoyed/hostile. As for the trade down as a concept, there's nothing against it in this game, by the way. It's not made easy, true, and if it concerned large amount of money, shards or such, it might be on the suspicious side. But if someone just wants to move random selection of inconsequent gear pieces on occasion there is no cause for alarm. Also, the people who report someone are not told about the outcome of the report. Additional information might be requested if necessary but not always. Its totally possible however that GM had contacted (or even punished) the guy you reported. Getting or attempting to get someone punished for no reason tends to be perceived badly.
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    Last edited by Sida; 05-08-2017 at 06:39 PM.
    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    Something just occurred to me. This "person I've never seen before" might have just as well been the main character of someone who had recently been playing their alt a lot. So while you had been nice and helpfull in their presence earlier, you seemingly suddenly turned (seemingly) annoyed/hostile. As for the trade down as a concept, there's nothing against it in this game, by the way. It's not made easy, true, and if it concerned large amount of money, shards or such, it might be on the suspicious side. But if someone just wants to move random selection of inconsequent gear pieces on occasion there is no cause for alarm.
    That's just it! I asked them what they wanted to trade and they wouldn't tell me! ;-; they just said never mind and I got scared. the report was to clear up any doubts. I was going to ask if there was anything going on but before I could get any answers I was kicked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    That's just it! I asked them what they wanted to trade and they wouldn't tell me! ;-; they just said never mind and I got scared. the report was to clear up any doubts. I was going to ask if there was anything going on but before I could get any answers I was kicked.
    Step 1: get "never mind" (possibly meaning, "oh, sorry that I bothered")

    Step 2: report the person

    Step 3: ask what it was actually about

    You jumped the gun and wonder why they felt threatened? If you have fate in them, you dont use report as first tool, you ask first. If you don't have fate in them, why do you care they didn't have fate in you either.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    You jumped the gun and wonder why they felt threatened? If you have fate in them, you dont use report as first tool, you ask first. If you don't have fate in them, why do you care they didn't have fate in you either.
    This is what baffles me the most in this thread. Also, there is nothing in this whole situation to be reported to the GM. There was no harassment. A misunderstanding that ended in a bad way, happens all the time. You get up and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    Allow me to explain why this isn't a good reason.
    They told you the reason and you still want to argue? You know, more you argue more the kick feels legit. You and them just didn't mixed. As said above, the kick was a good thing for you both.

    About apartment, I'd suggest next time to wait enough time you and your next fc have settled and things are going good.

    It is more than normal that someone new in a FC is "in trial", nobody knows you and to make a feeling it needs time.
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  7. #27
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    Ok I'm sorry. I'm in the wrong and I got what I deserved. can a mod please close this thread now?
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    Allow me to explain why this isn't a good reason. In the business world you don't fire someone for "oh billy doesn't like you" that's harassment. I carry my self with dignity and repose. I was never hostile towards anyone, I was helpful ( ran dungeons with our newer members) and I was encouraging when some of our older members wanted to branch out and form their own fc.

    the very accusation "you weren't helpful" will not hold up in any world of social propriety. and "some people didn't like you" is more than enough ammunition to file a report. which I did.
    this is not work, this is a game. do you call the cops when people don't want to play football with you and don't want you in their team? even when you are good at football? filling a report because you were kicked out of your FC is not that different.

    and you said they kicked you within your preliminary time. not even a buisness has to give you any reason for kicking you during a preliminary time. so yes, they can kick you because billy doesn't like you. and if you and billy have to work together in a team, it's not even that unreasonable.
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    Last edited by Tint; 05-08-2017 at 07:51 PM.

  9. #29
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    The whole point of this thread is exactly what?
    Cause tbh in the last weeks some are complaining for everything. Even if it's a general community , this doesn't belong here, it belongs in private or a in a ticket .
    Whining won't win anything and will just baffle the rest of us .
    My 2 cents, grow up, life is full of "surprises" and your generation is losing badly at logic and emotional control or restrain.
    And trust me when it will hit in full force, either you will break or you'll face the situation. At this point you're in category 1 as most of ppl that i see complaining on this forum.
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    Last edited by cougarel; 05-08-2017 at 07:52 PM.
    There is no limit that can not be passed

  10. #30
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    Febreealle Goldlyonse
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    I think the biggest mistake was to even mention in this thread that you had filed a GM report at all. NEVER discuss your GM reports with anyone, anywhere, for any reason. By coming to the forums with this, there's now a good chance that people from that FC are going to think that your primary recourse for something you don't understand is to fill out a report. They will feel even more justified in letting you go. When they see a new FC tag over your name, they may even contact that FCs leadership with that information, and the new FC may decide that you may not mesh well off of it.
    Not surprisingly, some FCs out there DO have players who engage in RMT; buying from them, selling to them, or even using bots themselves for gathering and mass crafting. There's also a possibility that you just got kicked from one because a member who did one of the above could tell how you felt about RMT, and felt threatened that you would inevitably find out about/report their actions (some people have been known to openly talk about their illegal activities in FC chat, and knowing a certain FC member is waiting to screenshot/report is.....)
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