New Class Idea

[Freyt]

I'm going to simply agree to disagree here.

I'd say he's a lot closer than you are.

In Dissidia they re-conceptualized everything. They also made a "classic" costume for Cecil for his Dark Knight and Paladin forms.



Cecil used "Dark Swords". This is specific. You could take it as that Cecil would use a sword tainted with dark energy, whether it was a broadsword or a katana. Also just because you feel a certain way about FF3's Mystic Knights doesn't make that the case. They functioned entirely different any Dark Knight to come after.

[TouchandFeel]

I'd say he's a lot closer than you are.

In Dissidia they re-conceptualized everything. They also made a "classic" costume for Cecil for his Dark Knight and Paladin forms.



Cecil used "Dark Swords". This is specific. You could take it as that Cecil would use a sword tainted with dark energy, whether it was a broadsword or a katana. Also just because you feel a certain way about FF3's Mystic Knights doesn't make that the case. They functioned entirely different any Dark Knight to come after.

I'm not sure what the Dissidia "redesign" has to do with what I said. The Dissidia incarnation is based off Amano's concept work which is what I referenced in my post as to why I don't believe Cecil uses katana. Even in the image you linked Cecil has a sword that is much more Western in design, being debatebly a stylized sabre, and definitely not a katana. Just because a sword is single-edged and has a slight curve to it doesn't automatically make it a katana.

As to Makenshi being different than the later and iconic version of Dark Knight, that is just as true with Mystic Knight. I even spoke to that in my post, stating that they were different but had elements that would later be part of what became Dark Knight and that the similarities were far greater than any similarities to the iconic Mystic Knight.

Also the translation of Makenshi as "Mystic Knight" was from a fan translation and is far from correct as I broke down in my post as to what the original Japanese name means by breaking it down into it's parts. Ma roughly translates to evil, cursed, devilish. Ken is sword. Shi is person. Together they form Makenshi, meaning evil/cursed/dark/devilish swordsman and most definitely not Mystic Knight. The Japanese name used for Mystic Knight in Final Fantasy is Mahoukenshi which translates to magic swordsman.

I also stated in my post that if they wanted to consider Makenshi it's own unique job, that would be fine but it is closer to Dark Knight than Mystic Knight for all the reasons I listed already.

[Freyt]

Just because a sword is single-edged and has a slight curve to it doesn't automatically make it a katana.

had elements that would later be part of what became Dark Knight and that the similarities were far greater than any similarities to the iconic Mystic Knight.

Together they form Makenshi, meaning evil/cursed/dark/devilish swordsman and most definitely not Mystic Knight. The Japanese name used for Mystic Knight in Final Fantasy is Mahoukenshi which translates to magic swordsman.

I don't think I conveyed my point well enough. Cecil uses Dark Swords. What is a dark sword? Is it a katana? Is it a broadsword? Is it a sabre? Yes and no. It could be anything, just as long as it's imbued with darkness.

Other than using swords... what carries over to Dark Knight?

I understand the translation, I was saying Mystic Knight to make it easier to discuss.
You ever watch Final Fantasy Unlimited? In it, the main character uses something called the Magun. The Demon Gun. Does it wield the power of darkness? No. It's used as a tool for summoning the various espers/eidolons that we know from the series. The conclusion here is that "demon", when used in Japanese as a descriptor, does not necessarily equate to darkness. It's mostly synonymous with "magic". "Mahou" can easily be taken as an evil force or demon magic, depending on what the author of a story wants to do with it.