cant find a dps job in this game that i don't have a problem with

[Neela]

i mean that's what happens when you play a mobile ranged dps class because you are better suited to deal with things than many other classes and it comes at little to no expense of the raid

that proofs you don't have any idea what you are talking about... mobile range cls' were concepts of ARR - yet tell me which current range dd is still that mobile that mechanics are suited better to deal with in this current state of dps concepts than a random melee dd? now im really interested in your answer - pls go ahead ^^

I think that it is common sense that melee DPS are more of a liability than ranged DPS so they take more awareness to play but what most of this blowback boils down to is people getting upset by the fact someone is saying ranged takes less player ability than melee and the idea that it could be true.

not true. yet again you talk about things you can't judge - it has nothing to do with the likings of a cls over another but about people which just talk bs in the end... and stick to it even more than a couple of others proofed that its just not the way it currently is. in fact like Shane said Brd & Mch are two of the toughest cls to play effectively in the current raid tiers but how should you know that? yeah you can't. sry i forgot that.

if i decide i want a level 60 dps job i will get one. being level 60 is not as important as some of you seem to think it is. it's really not hard to watch a stream, read up on how to use something and take those observations and turn them into experience. i have been doing this a long time and it is the exact same old song and dance every time.

so you are Neo huh? watching a bruce lee documentary will make you to a material arts master or an Air Force pilot hmm? maybe you ll get a slight idea how it could be in the end but you still lack in personal experience... experience which would make this discussion way more earth-grounded.

[Maero]

Ranged do not deal with mechanics, umm black mage uses leylines anywheres and mechanics happen right there, lol
People joke about it alot but it is very true
Level a dps to 60 and you can see for yourself and people may take you more seriously

[Yeol]

Well, I like positionals and how each dps is different in keeping up good damage. It makes dps use their brains rather than randomly smashing buttons mindlessly.

[ShaolinMike]

all ranged dps are weenie hut jrs so that's off the table, dragoon makes me want to drink bleach with all 50 of it's ridiculous pos reqs that are impossible when your df tank is playing dance dance revolution with all the enemy mobs, monk would be great if greased lightning wasn't an annoying mechanic to deal with and Ninja is the closest thing to a decent dps class in this game but even still it is plagued by the same crap...

Why is trick attack an ability that requires positioning? Guess what, the tank turned. Now your burst cd is on cd and you didn't even get to use it for anything. Pisses me right off.

please tell me Samurai will be better. =\

So, just tank, heal, or play a different game? They're not going to rework the combat from the ground up, so hoping that the job will be different is futile. EVERY job has cooldowns, EVERY job has oGCDs, and EVERY (melee) job has positionals to one degree or another.

[Nerisu]

By design, ranged DPS do not deal with mechanics as much.

In casual content, yeah. I'm guilty of not doing most of the mechanics in 24-man raids unless it will cause instant KO or something. It's not the same for savage raids, though.
I don't know how ranged DPS classes work in raids in other games but in this game you don't just "sit in the back flinging poo at bosses".

[Renius]

Bard sir Bard. Plenty of DPS and great skill rotations if played right. Only thing I ever wished for on Bard was an ability to stun MOBS or push them back (LOTRO stuff) but otherwise I tried all other DPS and for me Bard is the one and my main Char. Stop complaining and level them up and get the full spectrum of abilities and skills then post this kind of ridiculous post.

[bardaboo]

To hear someone who complains about how hard it is to remember to use kiss of the wasp/viper at the start of a dungeon also say ranged dps is "too easy" maybe you should settle on the easier side... if one button gives you a headache I'd love to see your eyes bleed trying to pull off maximizing a ranged dps.
Like... lol.
Maybe the only button you should strive to remember is Uninstall.

[Mature]

By design, ranged DPS do not deal with mechanics as much.

Please S T O P

I don't even have words to express how I felt reading.... this..

[Allyrion]

Range dps being easier is a meme passed from other games. It's used to be true and sometimes still is in other games.

It's definitely not true in FFXIV. It's pretty much the opposite fight design-wise. I main MNK, but MCH is my second right now. Not comparing actual rotations, you definitely get more opportunity to focus the boss and not deal with some mechanics as a melee. Comparing rotations themselves never ends well because people find different things difficult. I think most would say MCH is harder than MNK though.

So if you're playing melee to feed some superiority complex, this isn't the game. You're better off channeling that energy into remembering to put on poisons once before the battle starts.

OP, It's okay to have opinions but you don't need to justify them by putting other things or people down. You're clearly still working on mastering the base mechanics of playing melee, complaining about the challenge and unforgiving nature of those mechanics while making some point that you play melee cause ranged are for noobs who take the easy way out.

You're either trolling or completely oblivious to the irony in your positions.

[SpookyGhost]

By design, ranged DPS do not deal with mechanics as much.

i mean that's what happens when you play a mobile ranged dps class because you are better suited to deal with things than many other classes and it comes at little to no expense of the raid

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