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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azerhan View Post
    Maybe you should play something else, maybe you're here because your mates said you're bad


    Quote Originally Posted by Azerhan View Post
    I mean, okay, you don't like it, but the game proposes 3 dps and you just say you don't like it because: one is bad because of tanks (that a non-sense, if the tank is bad or the mechanics needs to make the mob moves, it's not the job's fault, btw you don't always need to move in DRG, just for 3-4 moves), the second because Greased Lightning... The first goal of the MNK: keep the ability always up and get the reflex to unleash a big attack when you know you'll lose it... How can you say it's a bad thing? You need to learn very well the job AND fights to know HOW to play it well... and the last one because... nothing, you just don't like it because.
    bad tanks make playing boring DPS jobs a problem. unfortunately, bad tanks are a symptom - not the cause, as some of you so proficiently manage to misinterpret in frustation at the thought that ranged dps could be less responsible and more forgiving than melee DPS.

    if it is not the job design's fault that you lose a trick attack to dance dance revolution, then I'd have to say dragoons never would have been changed. there was clearly a huge issue with the job that was making it unfun to play and it saw many adjustments because of it. a few positional requirements for de/buffs were removed, magic defense was increased and the animation of jump attacks was shortened(?) I believe. There is probably more, but this is what I have noticed.

    The first goal of the MNK: keep the ability always up
    next you're going to tell me that the sky is blue, mac and cheese is good and you'd bang megan fox if you had the chance

    Things in this game just disappear into thin air all the time leaving you without a moment to keep a big dps buff up and long enough to drop it even if you do maintain it. Then so much about dps in this game is just juggling buffs. it never ends and it's always the same for every class. you are set in a rigid rotation that does not deviate much from the second you hit a boss and until it's dead or you're dead.

    put your dots up, 123123123123123, keep buff up etc. lather rinse repeat. I imagine this makes it easy for them to balance DPS classes because of homogenization but it's incredibly linear and predictable. I get bored with things like that really fast. Feels more like work than fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bugs-Buny View Post
    A normal Opinion : "I (Don't) Like Camaros but i've never drived one so i may not like it once i do"

    your Opinion : Camaros are boring
    actually i was going to ask what they do when they hit something and the airbags deploy and all their glitter and dildos go flying everywhere

    CY@

    You got to the point in a very wrong way by saying it's ez&shit.
    Even though you have the ability to expose your opinion just like you did right now.
    well its like i said earlier if you enjoy playing a particular class someone finds especially mind numbing you shouldn't let what a few people think about it bother you so much

    Dragoon does not seem as bad as it was when i first started playing in 2.0 but honestly i didn't expect to see changes. it is at least playable now. can't really bag on it too much anymore.

    I highly suggest to at least check out how those play in a raid environnement in order to have a clear view on how they play
    the problem with that is that things only get slower and even more boring during progression in this game

    i doubt i will ever play a DPS class with real enthusiasm in this game outside of DF just because of how rigid and linear everything is

    "I'm also not a fan of directional attacks so I'm finding it hard to enjoy DPS classes"
    the last time i played dragoon you didnt get many of your buffs if the attack was not executed in the correct position. it was infuriating. not being able to get those buffs when you needed them was a much bigger DPS loss than losing potency from being out of position which is what you are being faced with now. Big difference.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post


    the problem with that is that things only get slower and even more boring during progression in this game

    i doubt i will ever play a DPS class with real enthusiasm in this game outside of DF just because of how rigid and linear everything is
    Okay so I assume you have no clue about FF XIV raid. In my opinion, you're just some arrogant person who claims to know everything while clearly having no clue about what you are talking about. It's like talking to a little kid, who claims that the earth is flat.

    And the way you're answering people... Man, you really need to calm down and try a least to read carefully what people say because you're not looking smart at all from here ...
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  3. #83
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    Deithwen just said it all. +1
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deithwen View Post
    Okay so I assume you have no clue about FF XIV raid
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/46895701

    oh hey look it's a video of me in a raid in FFXIV

    imagine that

    crazy stuff right
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  5. #85
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    T5 Clear #3 • 3 years ago
    oh hey look how outdated this video actually is.

    imagine that

    crazy stuff right?


    you haven't got anything Deithwen came up with, you just proofed his opinion even more - failed.
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  6. #86
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    I hope the OP learnt a lesson out of all this. The community does not like unfunded arrogant/toxic people. Be more mindful next time when posting something without having enough/any knowledge about certain subjects.

    If you feel that you need help on how to use a DPS or learn more about them, please don't hesitate to seek advice.
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    Last edited by Mature; 05-10-2017 at 07:47 PM.

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    I hope the OP learnt a lesson out of all this.
    i "learnt" that if you say ranged dps is weenie mode people who can't speak english come cry at you lol

    but if you want to list some reasons why ranged DPS is not easier or more forgiving to play than melee DPS then by all means go ahead. At least then you'd be doing something to contribute to the discussion other than crying just because i'd rather take a nap than fall asleep on my desk playing bard xD

    better yet id like for you to describe how every class doesn't feel the same

    every class has dots
    many classes are locked into a 3 combo rotation and have an off GCD % threshold ability
    a lot of classes have a debuff applied in the same 3 combo rotations that all last the same amount of time and are refreshed in an identical manner which means they all run on very similar if not identical rotations. one is not so different from the other.

    everything just feels the same.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post
    i "learnt" that if you say ranged dps is weenie mode people who can't speak english come cry at you lol

    This is very funny because "learnt" is actually correct.

    On the other hand, jumping on the occasion to dismiss someone's opinion based on his writing (which wasn't even wrong in the first place) shows us pretty well what kind of childish person you are.
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post
    i " i'd rather take a nap than fall asleep on my desk playing bard xD
    said a lvl 22 archer... this alone is a joke itself...
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  10. #90
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    Opinion is not invalid but come on seriously come back when you actually have dps jobs @ 60... Things have changed alot
    Boring or not your opinion would actually have more merit when you bother to level the jobs?
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