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    What dps classes did people who hate the dps classes in this game play in other games if they think ffxiv dps is boring or simple or all the same? I'm not even trying to take a side in the argument, I'm simply curious. If possible, I'd be interested to know specific expansions as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsilyi View Post
    What dps classes did people who hate the dps classes in this game play in other games if they think ffxiv dps is boring or simple or all the same? I'm not even trying to take a side in the argument, I'm simply curious. If possible, I'd be interested to know specific expansions as well.
    Lineage II, I played Moonlight Sentinel, Ghost Hunter (was hero on both), also played Storm Screamer, I wanna say it was around 2007-2008 ish. In Aion I played the Summoner and Sorcerer class in end game in 2009. FFXI was Dancer, Ranger, Thief, Blue Mage and Samurai (Played nearly all jobs in FFXI, but those are the only "melee" ones I had played fully)

    I really, really find every melee class in FFXIV quite boring, I am not too fond of "Bard"...I would LOVE a Ranger class and a support type bard WITHOUT a cast bar, we are not casters.

    I dislike ninja also..would love a better dagger class, something without mudra, and my biggest gripe with NIN is how the attack animations are multi hit..but then its a SINGLE HIT, get outta here with that lol. I could go on for hours on end explaining my dislike for each melee job, but meh.

    Summoner is my main, since ARR release. Before that, in 1.x..I played and enjoyed all jobs. Not anymore lol. Now they are all way too samey...I have leveled and tried them all at end game. I did enjoy Bard in 2.0 also..until that dreadful cast bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    FFXI was Dancer, Ranger, Thief, Blue Mage and Samurai
    yesss dancer best, and samurai. haven't played much blu but my thief is 50!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsilyi View Post
    What dps classes did people who hate the dps classes in this game play in other games if they think ffxiv dps is boring or simple or all the same? I'm not even trying to take a side in the argument, I'm simply curious. If possible, I'd be interested to know specific expansions as well.
    How close does it need to be to a WoW-style MMO? I haven't played WoW, but since the design principles are similar I don't think I would enjoy their DPS classes. If you cast the net a little broader... GW2, I enjoyed Elementalist and Engineer, for example. Firefall, back when it was playable, even the simple and straightforward assault class was pretty fun. If you're willing to go even broader than that... Heroes of the Storm, pretty much any of the Specialist role. Sgt Hammer for straight, high DPS, but sometimes characters like Sylvanas or Murky as well. World of Warships, Carriers, but sometimes high-DPS Cruisers.

    Personally I'm aware that FFXIV's DPS design in inherent in the type of game it is so I'm not expecting the devs to wildly change it up. But it just probably won't ever be something I enjoy.

    edit: Oh, to add one more. The Secret World! It doesn't have classes, but... I went assault rifle spec. Hybrid DPS and healing. It was fun. The combat in that game gets a lot of complaints but ARs were actually pretty well done, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caduagm View Post
    "dps classes in this game being boring"
    You have smn lvl 33, mch 0, not even bard it is ARCHER lvl 22.
    -you saying bard is easy, well it kinda is since you're actually archer level 22 which you have only 3 buttons to press.
    -you have smn at level 33 which is fucking boring, although you didn't even reach level 60... When you NEVER stop pressing buttons on smn at that level.
    -you don't even have mch unlocked to say all dps classes are boring.
    -blm on level 50 is pretty much boring I know, but try to level it to 60 and try to keep enochian up and maximize your dps while you have to move to do mechanics.
    -you have drg on level 50 and saying it's too hard to do the positionals since you only have 2.
    Anyways idk what is the reason of this topic, you didn't even have all dps jobs unlocked (BARD and MCH) so pls, after making a post with all this hate first know the game and its class.
    Spot on

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    What dps classes did people who hate the dps classes in this game play in other games if they think ffxiv dps is boring or simple or all the same? I'm not even trying to take a side in the argument, I'm simply curious. If possible, I'd be interested to know specific expansions as well.
    As so many have already chastized the OP for, we can't really compare from other MMOs, but to give my answer anyway:

    DDO (Dungeons and Dragons Online) was a good case for me on dps classes being sorely different at their core. Monks had flurry of blows and style strikes (If you know Dungeons and Dragons as a table top, you know where I'm geting at) There were 50+ feats to take that made finding someone exactly like your build impossible. Granted, there were popular feats, but not the same everywhere. Weapons and armor were so diverse that I am absolutely confident in saying it is impossible to find someone wearing the exact same thing as you...unless you sat down and made it happen.

    This isn't even the same Genre...but Planetside 2. The glaring problem here is that the better guns require pay to play (Pay to win) but if you have the money to drop, you can completely build your gear set to be unique, and still viable.

    Path of Exile. Have you seen the skill tree list? Google it.

    The Secret World. To explain in two words: Classless system. To elaborate: You can literally build anything, in to any skill, at any time. The game had 'decks' to suggest 'tank type' classes or 'healing type' classes...but you did not have to follow them 100% your choice.

    These choices alone kind of make FFXIV's cookie cutter classes look like shit (cause it is exactly that...shit)

    I mean hell..remember FFXI? That game had more diversity in classes than this game does...AND the choice of equipment varied to the point that people swapped out what they wore between fights to optimize mana regen, and shit.
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    Oh, I wasn't looking to compare, I was just curious. I have all of those other than Planetside. In fact I might still play FFXI >.> The complication and individuality of gearing or build choices in say TSW or FFXI are certainly to be commended and yes, PoE talent tree looking like a representation of the human brain. Thanks for answering!
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    I find it amusing how people are showing up, supporting OPs main idea, yet he is still being treated as his opinion is invalid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuleofThree View Post
    I find it amusing how people are showing up, supporting OPs main idea, yet he is still being treated as his opinion is invalid.
    all ranged dps classes are boring
    He HASN'T GOT HALF OF THEM unlocked. His opinion is big load of nonsense based on his INEXPERIENCE against ACTUAL facts. He can't be bothered trying it so he cannot express an opinion about something he hasn't even done or tried. its outrageous
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    probably because they were too boring to unlock

    i mean

    theres these things called opinions. people tend to have them
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