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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    .......But you haven't got a DPS class to lvl60....I don't understand the point of this thread.
    nevermind the fact that 50 was the level cap in 2.0 since y'all (and by y'all i mean everyone who is annoyed that i dont enjoy the monotony of a ranged dps class) keep wanting to go there, but classes do not change that much from 50-60 and you don't have to be level 60 to know how a class generally plays. For example; you only needed to be level 30 to know how bad Ninja Mudra lag is.

    DPS classes in this game feel really lame all around and I say that as someone who pretty much exclusively plays damage roles in games. I don't know how you guys stand it.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post
    snip.
    "DPS classes don't change that much from 50-60"

    Seems that you still have a LONG way to go. The day you actually reach 60 on all classes and master them (you still in baby steps) you are gonna comeback and look at this thread that you created and you're gonna feel like a right fool.

    No disrespect but you haven't got a a clue as to what are you talking about. I would understand if you were at lvl 60 and tried it all but you are faaaaaarr behind from a lot of people right now. Go to 60 and comeback to us. You are still in the process of learning.
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  3. #23
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    Hyomin Park
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    DPS classes don't change much from 50 to 60?

    The amount of BRDs that stopped being BRDs after they got Wanderer's Minuet disagree with you, I'm sure.
    If you don't have any DPS to 60, I don't see how you can say they aren't any different compared to their level 50 counterparts.

    Aside from BRD, BLM is also different at 60 compared to 50. Just to name another DPS outside of my main. Perhaps you should have experience before you make such claims.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    you haven't got a a clue as to what are you talking about
    >raided in multiple top 100 guilds
    >has over 10 years of experience raiding
    >was probably pro dragonslayer before there was hair on your armpits
    >has no idea what he's talking about

    lol

    the thread was a bit of a rant and i guess it could have been worded better as not to offend the many ranged dps (and a few dragoons) who have come to take the piss so that the subject matter may have been discussed

    but man if you like bard or another ranged dps thats cool or whatever

    you shouldn't care so much what other people think of it if you enjoy it

    But personally I have trouble actually enjoying playing a DPS class in this game which is weird for me because I generally prefer to play DPS. They all feel so similar and have that familiar boring or annoying feeling.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post

    please tell me Samurai will be better. easier for people like me =\
    you are saying range is weenie but you don't even know how to master brd. you say positionals of melees are to complicated or to dumb but you say you mastered them all? now you are asking for a cls which either isnt range nor based on any combo or positional system? so you just want a brainless hack & slay melee dd? cause you are just unmotivated to take work within? not able to learn complex concepts? just laziness? ... most likely you are just trollin'... .____.
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  6. #26
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    Leon Manderville
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    I kind of agree that dps classes are boring. Ive maxed dragoon lost my interest in it. I personally feel like it has too much clutter in its unchanging (except the 4ths of course)rotation. If they simplified it a bit and made mechanics more difficult i think id fall in love with it all over again. Once you know your rotation you mindlessly repeat it for the rest of your days except the rare occasions where you do things like goading your buddy or pop out a swiftcasted raise as a smn. That is one reason why I enjoy tanking and healing. Rotations and trash pulls with lots of health put me to sleep. Yoshida once said he wanted to put more focus into mechanics and less focus on rotations. I hope that comes with Stormblood.

    I would recommend you play warrior and see how you like it. 3 basic rotations, dps-enmity/slashing debuff/hp leech. Then you spend stacks of adrenaline(basically) to do special moves and you get to fight face to face with the boss.....EDIT: ah.. lol youre a war I should have looked.
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    Last edited by xJimmehx; 05-08-2017 at 06:15 PM.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    you say positionals of melees are to complicated
    nope

    picture this: you're building up your combo and you're about to open that masterfully crafted can of whoop ass but the tank is just like

    spastically floundering around

    so you're just sitting there for a solid 5 seconds waiting for him to stop being a tit so you don't waste trick attack and you think you have the greenlight but then all of a sudden DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION for no apparent reason. Then poof, gone! Just like that! bye burst dps cd nice knowing ya

    this is also another reason that dps is just not fun to play. Positional skills are not inherently difficult but a lot of tanks out there make them very tedious and unrewarding work. I mean I get that annoyed over losing a trick attack. But it's like that all the time as a DRG. So by the time I'm done with a dungeon as DRG I am just over the job again.

    ah.. lol youre a war I should have looked.
    MRD dps for life

    but yeah i have loved war ever since i started playing the game
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    Last edited by Delorean; 05-08-2017 at 06:39 PM.

  8. #28
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    The problem with your thread is that you talking about something that you don't know really (not played a class to 60 and how much has changed look at SMN and BARD)

    I don't care how long have you been playing games how long you been raiding or how "pro" you believed to be because that's not the point and no one cares.

    Your issue in here is very simple and I'll give you an example:

    "I think tanking is boring cause I just press one thing all the time and I hate it... But I haven't tried it"

    Literally I have no right to criticize something that I haven't done or tried. But you feel it's ok?

    If this thread popped up 2 years ago I will honestly understand you cause you have MAXED out all classes to 50 so you have room to talk but sadly you have no idea of what you talking about now.
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  9. #29
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    Thessayn Svisast
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    Hate all you want, OP has a point. Not defending his trollish way of making it, however, but the fact remains he has a point. All DPS feel the same, period. It is Rotation A in to rotation B in to Rotation C and back to A again, ad nausea. This is just on bosses too, who actually stand still for you to do those positionals. Don't even bother with trash pulls, just spam your classes best AoE, and try to keep awake while doing it. I mean, sure, bard has fucking 'sweet ass sidewinderdps yo!' but you only be dropping it on bosses, and the occasional trash mob, when an AoE attack isn't proced.

    So...yea...when that 'wicked sick super fly 18,000 sidewinder of death' only matters for 33.3% of the dungeon/raid? (I.E on bosses) and the rest of the time you are bored to fucking tears? Yea...I'd say OP has a point.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuleofThree View Post
    snip.
    But this is something that's been on for decades I don't understand your point at all.

    (An example, street fighter V is the same game for over 2 decades but with new characters and one or two new combos)

    Or Final fantasy has always been the same for decades but with new story line new spells new characters.... Realistically nothing has changed for years the only change that we had with XII gameplay wise. But apart from that it's always the same so I'm struggling to get your point

    What He is trying to say is that all classes are the same from 50-60... He has no idea what he is talking about at all without trying it hence my street fighter example
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    Last edited by Mature; 05-08-2017 at 07:47 PM.

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