[dev1251] Item search like this is useless

[Lauro]

"Verifying item quality (whether HQ or NQ) and details regarding materia-crafted items through the Item Search is not currently possible, but we plan to alleviate this some time after patch 1.20b."


What's the point of being able to buy from the Item search list if I have no idea of what I am buying? I could end up buying an overpriced NQ + pay taxes on top!!! So until this is fixed, we still have to go find the retainer...


Please SE make sure you don't start charging before this is implemented. This was meant to be one of stars of the patch, and once again you push the important things back.

/sigh

EDIT: Please note this thread is not about buyer tax, that's just a trivial annoyance IMO. This thread is about the inability to view item details from item search, forcing you to still visit multiple wards/retainers to find what you seek. This doesn't meet the standard we were promised before subscription fees start.

we plan to alleviate this some time after patch 1.20b.

[Mug]

I just find it really strange how they keep giving us all these (in my opinion, way too intricate) ways to enhance our gear (with HQ's and materia) before we have a proper way to distribute them. They're doing everything backwards.

[Roaran]

So, the system works perfectly fine for anything outside of special items like HQ and gear with materia.

And people who are looking for HQ items may have to go to a retainer to confirm whether something is HQ or not.

QUESTION:
How is this anything other than a step it in the right direction? Obviously the market won't be finalized for a long time, so all we will get are steps and improvements. Given that, how on earth can people complain when something like this feature is so obviously an improvement??

[neizero]

QUESTION:
How is this anything other than a step it in the right direction? Obviously the market won't be finalized for a long time

You answered your own question. At this rate it will take a long time. A fully functional market system should have been in place on September 23rd 2010.

We have waited more than a year, and still we are not far from where we started.

They will start asking for subcription money before the market system is anywhere near the "standard" promised by Yoshida.

[Roaran]

We have a fully functional market system. It just, as I said, isn't finalized yet. The type of market system that I have suggested requires waiting until 2.0.

[Physic]

the op is somewhat accurate although overstated.

simply put,

with our current itemization not being able to see quality or materia is a glaring flaw, in fact it is a bigger flaw than the lack of a buy from menu feature, and it has been a flaw since market seraches inception, it is only compounded now with materia and items with materia added.

Yoshi said that he felt having a working item distribution system was one of the keys he needed before it was ready for p2p, but this is still not a working item distribution system.

There is still no way to tell what is truely on sale without going to every retainer who is selling the item.

Imo this feature is more important than item history and a buy from menu option, because at the end of the day, being able to tell what you are buying or look for is the most important feature.

HQ is only one facet of the issue, materia is now the other.

and while they are working on it, they need to stick by their own words, the devs officially said it was the most important things for charging, so if it is failing then why are they charging. Im not saying they shouldnt charge by jan 6, im saying if thats their goal then they need to meet their own self imposed criteria for what makes it ready to charge before then.

get a working item search, the fact is as far as item searching goes, the system that was supposed to be in place by 1.20 is in function of searching for specific items, no better than before, although in some cases it is more convenient.

[PSxpert2011]

SE: "Bah, it's all these resources are putting us in bandwidth-stress. We'll show them players,lol".
FFxiv DEF Team: You sure about this? Our poll is 12% disapprove, I guess the majority of them really are THAT lazy! O_o

Version 2.0 releases:

NA player: Damnit... i still can't buy the gear I need off the search list! That means I have to walk to the retainer!!! I need it now!!!!! >.>
EU player: You darn skippy yo, this is totally jammy... I so need to shower and I can't tell is it's HQ or NQ really. Oh, wait wait... It says it is (+3). Cheerio, gonna get to that weapon first before someone else, taah taah! v.v

SA player: Hay caramba!, Me gusta mucho el up-date. (Oh snap!, I love the up-date so much) Podra que SE sabes lo que me gusta,jajaja! (Maybe SE like what I like, hahaha!

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I could say we're still in the stage of pilgrimage when it come to FFxiv. Leave short for complaints if less for harsh criticism for SE efforts to please the player base and turn the game around in the first place. Saying it's not ready to start paying for and this and that is long-term arrogance and down-right negativity for saying the least. Everyone has their own views of the system and as for me, I rather walk/run to the retainer to buy. When I sell, if I rent a stand... you better damn well pay me a visit to purchase my good and wave hello to my retainer with her pretty stand set-up (or they going to rent stands for free next up-date?).

[Jinko]

I agree with this post, not knowing what is NQ and HQ means you have to go check the retainer anyway.

I hope you plan to add this in 1.20a/b as its been something which should have been fixed a long time ago.

HQ items need to have a seperate history to NQ also.

Select Item, and have the option to view NQ or +1 for example.

[Jinko]

It's good to see the names of retainers in the sales history too, so you can see if someone is trying to scam the markets by buying things from themselves over and over again.

It would be suspicious to me if all 20 entries in the history were from the same person. However because I can't see the name, who knows if they were legitimate purchases or not.

Imo, putting in a sales history without proper safeguards against rmt/scammers is a big mistake. They should leave out the sales history for now until they are more prepared with a more complete system.

Now I understand that the history gets erased during server maintenance which helps in some ways. However it also just gives people another opportunity to throw things way out of whack every maintenance. After every maintenance the prices will be like as if the items just came out for the first time. People will take advantage of this clean slate and try to manipulate prices every time.

Agree with this, this is why I think an average system similar to Vindictus would be so much better.

SE should keep the history prices hidden and display an average price over the last 20 sold items instead.

[Gukswar]

They F I N need to add a HQ and melded item search into ward