[dev1251] Penalty for using market search feature

[lackofwords]

I don't mind the sales tax since it isn't taxing the merchant. It's taxing the consumers. At the moment there is 0% tax on the consumers. You just pay whatever is listed.

However, if you include both taxes, it totals up to 10% or less, which is the same as bazaar tax on players selling. Although, player bazaar tax doesn't have a upper cap limit, so purchasing from MW still saves more gil.

If 4000gil or less is breaking your budget, then you still have the option of going down and picking up the item. Keyword there is option.

[MaxWinter]

Not to bothered about this , i will probley go directly to the npc to save gil as i know based on past experiences that people will start charging more for items they sell as the game gets nearer 2.0

[Babydoll]

It seems backwards..shouldn't the person putting it up get the charge..like in FFXI? This also discourages people from overpricing stuff by paying % fee. o.O; Either way looks like I'll still be running to get my items..oh well lol.

[NoctisUmbra]

It seems backwards..shouldn't the person putting it up get the charge..like in FFXI? This also discourages people from overpricing stuff by paying % fee. o.O; Either way looks like I'll still be running to get my items..oh well lol.

Did you read the part where it caps at 4k?

Honestly people...

With how cheap some people are apparently, I'm honestly surprised we didn't get people complaining about retainers listing gear with values above 0 at the end to denote materia value or HQ level. All those extra gils going down the drain.

[Zezlar]

It seems backwards..shouldn't the person putting it up get the charge..like in FFXI? This also discourages people from overpricing stuff by paying % fee. o.O; Either way looks like I'll still be running to get my items..oh well lol.

There's already a tax on sellers. When a consumer buy's an item that tax is deducted from the amount of Gil they receive on the retainer. Sellers should not be taxed because a consumer chooses to buy off of a search counter. This is a luxury service, and they needed another Gil sink. The search tax caps at 4k Gil for any item. Though it's still fairly convenient to run to the retainer now that they have indicators. This isn't a huge deal. I'm just glad there is now a price history.

[Dhalmel]

People seem to forget FFXI had AH fees, it was towards the merchant not the consumer but none the less...bitches gonna bitch.


The only problem I have with the implementation is that transaction history resets at maintenance, though I'm sure this is a server side issue that may be remedied in the future.

[Llewelyn]

People seem to forget FFXI had AH fees, it was towards the merchant not the consumer but none the less...bitches gonna bitch.


The only problem I have with the implementation is that transaction history resets at maintenance, though I'm sure this is a server side issue that may be remedied in the future.

Those were taxes. They made sense. The current system is becoming increasingly complicated and confusing to explain, without any real advantage. Give us an up-front auction house, where we can buy/sell there, and have taxes happen ONCE. Problem solved. There's nothing good about the market wards. It was an idea that tanked and we're still suffering with.

[NoctisUmbra]

Those were taxes. They made sense. The current system is becoming increasingly complicated and confusing to explain, without any real advantage.

Complicated and confusing?

If you're selling, you are imposed sales tax based on where you are selling.

If buying, you are imposed a very small convenience surcharge for not zoning into the wards. In order to not be priced higher than very cheap items, it is % based. In order to not discourage the use of the feature for very expensive items, it is capped at 4k.

Simple. Honestly, if you find this complicating don't even bother trying to lecture on economics.

Give us an up-front auction house, where we can buy/sell there, and have taxes happen ONCE. Problem solved. There's nothing good about the market wards. It was an idea that tanked and we're still suffering with.

1. Color me surprised that you want a traditional AH. /sarcasm

2. That is a very lovely opinion you have there. Thanks for sharing. I'll share mine, too. I love the Market Wards system. I feel it can use some improvements - some of which we are seeing now. However, I would not like to have the system abolished in favor of a traditional AH.

This is a matter of opinion. While this addition of directly buying from Item Search allows a sort of pseudo-AH experience for enthusiasts of the traditional system, it also - ever delicately - encourages the use of the Wards themselves. A compromise that has the potential to satisfy both sides.

Not surprising, however, that the more passionate AH enthusiasts feel cheated by this compromise because apparently they feel ever entitled to an AH, and anything less is not justified.

Right...

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P.S: It's a new page. Let's meet that quota.

[Masamune1004]

2. That is a very lovely opinion you have there. Thanks for sharing. I'll share mine, too. I love the Market Wards system. I feel it can use some improvements - some of which we are seeing now. However, I would not like to have the system abolished in favor of a traditional AH.

This is a matter of opinion. While this addition of directly buying from Item Search allows a sort of pseudo-AH experience for enthusiasts of the traditional system, it also - ever delicately - encourages the use of the Wards themselves. A compromise that has the potential to satisfy both sides.

Not surprising, however, that the more passionate AH enthusiasts feel cheated by this compromise because apparently they feel ever entitled to an AH, and anything less is not justified.

Very nice. I also like our current system of the wards, and would hate to see it destroyed because of the crybabies who want everything spoon-fed to them.

Also, have you seen this post? It's pretty funny imo.

"There is too much Gil in the game"
"Nothing to buy I have XXX million Gil"
"Money in this game is worthless"
"Money is so easy to get, they practically give it away"
etc...


Implement 5,000 gil charge for repairs
Implement 5,000 gil charge for airship
Implement 5% (max 4,000) gil charge for instant market ward transactions



WHY YOU GIL SINK MY SHIP!#!)$

[NoctisUmbra]

Also, have you seen this post? It's pretty funny imo.

Oh! It looks a lot like this post:

"There is too much Gil in the game"
"Nothing to buy I have XXX million Gil"
"Money in this game is worthless"
"Money is so easy to get, they practically give it away"
etc...


Implement 5,000 gil charge for repairs
Implement 5,000 gil charge for airship
Implement 5% (max 4,000) gil charge for instant market ward transactions



WHY YOU GIL SINK MY SHIP!#!)$