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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalmel View Post
    People seem to forget FFXI had AH fees, it was towards the merchant not the consumer but none the less...bitches gonna bitch.


    The only problem I have with the implementation is that transaction history resets at maintenance, though I'm sure this is a server side issue that may be remedied in the future.
    Those were taxes. They made sense. The current system is becoming increasingly complicated and confusing to explain, without any real advantage. Give us an up-front auction house, where we can buy/sell there, and have taxes happen ONCE. Problem solved. There's nothing good about the market wards. It was an idea that tanked and we're still suffering with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llewelyn View Post
    Those were taxes. They made sense. The current system is becoming increasingly complicated and confusing to explain, without any real advantage.
    Complicated and confusing?

    If you're selling, you are imposed sales tax based on where you are selling.

    If buying, you are imposed a very small convenience surcharge for not zoning into the wards. In order to not be priced higher than very cheap items, it is % based. In order to not discourage the use of the feature for very expensive items, it is capped at 4k.

    Simple. Honestly, if you find this complicating don't even bother trying to lecture on economics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Llewelyn View Post
    Give us an up-front auction house, where we can buy/sell there, and have taxes happen ONCE. Problem solved. There's nothing good about the market wards. It was an idea that tanked and we're still suffering with.
    1. Color me surprised that you want a traditional AH. /sarcasm

    2. That is a very lovely opinion you have there. Thanks for sharing. I'll share mine, too. I love the Market Wards system. I feel it can use some improvements - some of which we are seeing now. However, I would not like to have the system abolished in favor of a traditional AH.

    This is a matter of opinion. While this addition of directly buying from Item Search allows a sort of pseudo-AH experience for enthusiasts of the traditional system, it also - ever delicately - encourages the use of the Wards themselves. A compromise that has the potential to satisfy both sides.

    Not surprising, however, that the more passionate AH enthusiasts feel cheated by this compromise because apparently they feel ever entitled to an AH, and anything less is not justified.

    Right...

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    P.S: It's a new page. Let's meet that quota.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    2. That is a very lovely opinion you have there. Thanks for sharing. I'll share mine, too. I love the Market Wards system. I feel it can use some improvements - some of which we are seeing now. However, I would not like to have the system abolished in favor of a traditional AH.

    This is a matter of opinion. While this addition of directly buying from Item Search allows a sort of pseudo-AH experience for enthusiasts of the traditional system, it also - ever delicately - encourages the use of the Wards themselves. A compromise that has the potential to satisfy both sides.

    Not surprising, however, that the more passionate AH enthusiasts feel cheated by this compromise because apparently they feel ever entitled to an AH, and anything less is not justified.
    Very nice. I also like our current system of the wards, and would hate to see it destroyed because of the crybabies who want everything spoon-fed to them.

    Also, have you seen this post? It's pretty funny imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by RemVye View Post
    "There is too much Gil in the game"
    "Nothing to buy I have XXX million Gil"
    "Money in this game is worthless"
    "Money is so easy to get, they practically give it away"
    etc...


    Implement 5,000 gil charge for repairs
    Implement 5,000 gil charge for airship
    Implement 5% (max 4,000) gil charge for instant market ward transactions



    WHY YOU GIL SINK MY SHIP!#!)$
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masamune1004 View Post
    Also, have you seen this post? It's pretty funny imo.
    Oh! It looks a lot like this post:


    Quote Originally Posted by RemVye View Post
    "There is too much Gil in the game"
    "Nothing to buy I have XXX million Gil"
    "Money in this game is worthless"
    "Money is so easy to get, they practically give it away"
    etc...


    Implement 5,000 gil charge for repairs
    Implement 5,000 gil charge for airship
    Implement 5% (max 4,000) gil charge for instant market ward transactions



    WHY YOU GIL SINK MY SHIP!#!)$
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llewelyn View Post
    Give us an up-front auction house, where we can buy/sell there, and have taxes happen ONCE.
    Charge me 10% for buying or selling? That's fine.

    Charge me 5% for buying and selling?

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