Should i stop taking crap from people and just start reporting?

[Mizunoko]

This is going to be somewhat a rant but also be a legitimate question. Also i apologize ahead of time for the wall of text, however please do not respond unless you read the whole thing and understand the full situation. Thank You.


I was headed to a fate far away and no one was doing it literally until i was almost at the fate. there was 3 people doing it so even though i was almost there the fate was done in seconds and i was waiting for 2 hours for that fate checking on it and another one on a different map for my book quest for relics ( we all know those books are terrible grinds) I shouted for them to hold the fate around 50% and it just kept progressing as i was just a few steps from the fate it finished. I confronted them about them because i wanted to find out if all 3 of them just didn't see the chat or if they were just being rude because they didn't want to hold the fate for a few seconds (i'm not saying anyone is obligated hold a fate for someone but i've seen people hold before just for the sake of being nice) well after i confronted them to find out more about it. Instead of just saying sorry or not saying anything or even being neutral the guy instantly got salty towards me and started swearing and calling me a salty b*tchy kid. Normally i just shrug this kind of stuff off when tensions rise and simply block but this guy seemed like a complete jerk so i'm wondering if there's enough justification to get him at-least a warning from a GM by reporting him. I'm starting to get tired of bad apples on my server and it seems like the bad community is only getting worse. I kind of want to just turn into a rat and start reporting every jerk i come across. I am probably going to get a lot of negative feedback for this post because it may seem like a rant and perhaps a bit of it is, but the other part of this is a legitimate question. Should i stop letting people just be jerks and harass me and simply start hitting the report button more often in these cases?

It's just that i'm sick of people like this becoming more and more common on my server and if it takes me turning jerk and just start reporting people for every wrong thing they do then so be it. I miss when my server was a much nicer and a good community. Also i apologize if i am circling any points or things i am not so good with words and writing. Thank You.

[Lexia]

Well you can't report someone because they didn't hold a fate for you as for being a "salty b*tchy kid" depends on how you responded to them if you could report them cause GM will looks at both sides of the conversation.

[SendohJin]

i doubt reporting them will get the result you are thinking of. you're just going to be wasting your own time.

you should go back to ignoring them and just moving on with your own business.

[Serilda]

I don't see why you would bother confronting people for not holding a FATE you were camping (but not actually camping anywhere near where it was).

If they broke the rules with their response, you may as well report them if it upset you. Personally I would have just blamed myself for being miles away and moved on. It wouldn't even occur to me to shout for people to hold it for me; if you're low level, not an English speaker (remember that most FATEs have localised names!) or not reading the chat then some complete stranger shouting across the zone is rude to begin with. I know that camping FATEs isn't the most fun activity in the game but some of them appear and vanish so fast you do have to properly camp them to have a chance.

[Natashio]

Someone for playing a portion of the game content the way it was intended to played is not a reportable offense. Like you even mention, they are in no obligation to wait or hold. So means, they also had no reason to give you an explanation why they didn't. Now if you want to use their bad mouthing as an excuse for reporting them, even though you could just moved along and waited for the next pop. Then you just put yourself at their level.

[Mizunoko]

Someone for playing a portion of the game content the way it was intended to played is not a reportable offense. Like you even mention, they are in no obligation to wait or hold. So means, they also had no reason to give you an explanation why they didn't. Now if you want to use their bad mouthing as an excuse for reporting them, even though you could just moved along and waited for the next pop. Then you just put yourself at their level.

the fate thing was more for context i pointed out it wasnt an obligation to hold the fate to kind of emphasise on that not being the reasoning for them being a jerk or reporting. The reason i am a bit upset over this is that theres no reason for someone to just go over the line like that and start cussing me out when i never took it that far myself. I'ts like hitting someone who is swearing at you. Theres no justification to taking it up a step to something worse. I also fail to see how i would be put at their level considering they are the ones that took things too far and started childishly namecalling and swearing at me and i never once did any such thing. Reporting someone for breaking the terms of service is also a part of the game and how the system works so obviously there should be justification in reporting them.

[Mizunoko]

Well you can't report someone because they didn't hold a fate for you as for being a "salty b*tchy kid" depends on how you responded to them if you could report them cause GM will looks at both sides of the conversation.

I'm not really worried about the gm looking at both sides, infact im counting on that. I never went too far and started harrassing him or swearing at him, and i didnt confront him to create a situation i honestly just wanted to find out if the guy was just being a jerk or if he was just being neutral on it or didnt see the chat. To me knowing makes all the difference whether others think its pointless to know or not i like to know my community and who to stay away from or not. At-least this way i know to stay away from that guy and block him because he is not the type of person i want to associate with. If i never confronted him who knows i could have friended him or something and ended up in a heaping load more of drama some day. I like to know the community im surrounded by. People change servers simply because of community. It makes all the difference.

[RaijinSupreme]

I'm not really worried about the gm looking at both sides, infact im counting on that. I never went too far and started harrassing him or swearing at him, and i didnt confront him to create a situation i honestly just wanted to find out if the guy was just being a jerk or if he was just being neutral on it or didnt see the chat.

Well, now you know. But like people said, reporting won't get you anywhere. You can still do it, but it would most likely not result in anything substantial.

[Mizunoko]

I don't see why you would bother confronting people for not holding a FATE you were camping (but not actually camping anywhere near where it was).

If they broke the rules with their response, you may as well report them if it upset you. Personally I would have just blamed myself for being miles away and moved on. It wouldn't even occur to me to shout for people to hold it for me; if you're low level, not an English speaker (remember that most FATEs have localised names!) or not reading the chat then some complete stranger shouting across the zone is rude to begin with. I know that camping FATEs isn't the most fun activity in the game but some of them appear and vanish so fast you do have to properly camp them to have a chance.

People ask to hold fates or hunts or anything all the time language or not its rare for someone to not speak english in the chat otherwise hunts would be even worse than they already are. The chat box is for communication and people use it for such. There is nothing wrong with asking for someone to hold something. As for blaming myself for not camping the fate im not going to do that. If you have ever done books you would know as well as any other person with a zeta that you are required to do 3 fates on 3 different maps and EVERYONE basically changes maps frequently to see if the fates are up. No one simply camps a fate for 2 hours for it to spawn when they could be checking the others on the other maps frequently. It is how people do the book quests and it would be extremely rare to find a person doing book quests to camp on one of them. Again though regardless of all that theres nothing wrong with asking in shout for someone to hold on a fate when you already spent all that time trying to get to it and someone started doing it at the last minute. Part of the problem is that fates don't take long enough to kill just like hunts are. If they are scaled down because noone did them recently someone can finish some fates within 20 seconds or less.

[Mizunoko]

Well, now you know. But like people said, reporting won't get you anywhere. You can still do it, but it would most likely not result in anything substantial.

If i can even get a GM to simply give the guy a warning not to break tos and swear and harass others i think that in itself can be substantial because then people would stop doing those things simply by knowing if they keep it up the punishment would get worse with each infraction or whatever. So even a small result from reporting him i feel could be productive. People could call me oversensetive or just a rat, but the fact is the terms of service are clear and exist for a reason and if someone breaks them then i feel like theres nothing wrong with saying to a gm "hey this guy did this and that kinda breaks the rules" without rules this game could be WAY more salty or full of bad apples. Terms of Service's are not created for no reason. No one wants a community full of people who treat everyone else like crud, if they did then i would say something isnt right with their brain.