Anima... its not fun anymore

[Laerad3993]

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There is no skill, personal or game wise in clearing any content, unsynced though. Almost all those extremes can be two manned.

With that in mind, good luck soloing titan ex on ANY class synced to 50. Outrageous or not. Many fights would just upright kill you without proper healing or mitigation.

They should definitely put forth content like they had in ARR with Chimera, etc. Just probably not slapping it in content without thinking first.

[Xlantaa]

Done 9 of them, finishing the 10th.

[Kaethra]

Simple game design philosophy being ignored:

Will players participate or play with a feature or content if there was no reward?

If yes. Add feature or content.
If no. Redesign.

Think that is impossible? Look at Super Mario Bros. You had the option to skip Worlds 1-3 through 3-4. And 4-3 through 7-4. So why did some of us play them anyway? There was no different ending. Nothing special to help at the end of 8-4. We did it because it was fun.

Doesn't apply to RPGs? Breath of the Wild apparently can be beaten in 35 minutes. But the game on its own is fun enough to just explore and take it all in.

Why is our relic quest grindy? Arbitrary 'reason's. Its the idea that to have something good, one must work for it. Let's change that philosophy from 'work' to 'play'. Actually why couldn't the relic quest be something akin to the MSQ? Something like a WSQ (weapon story quest). Time is the part that they want behind the weapon, and something like the MSQ would take the requisite time. Players would get a ton of lore and would not feel drained playing through the same content over and over.

[Skyrior]

Anima is nerfed to oblivion already lol. Every step except light is completely trivial it's a joke. You can complete 13 Animas if you wish ez.

[Kaethra]

Anima is nerfed to oblivion already lol. Every step except light is completely trivial it's a joke. You can complete 13 Animas if you wish ez.

Time =/= Difficulty

If you can collect one, you can collect ten, or one hundred. The question is when does it stop becoming fun to do?

Personally I'd like the see the grindy steps taken out entirely and replaced with actual skill based encounters. Of course those against the idea are content with their easy grind, because an actual challenge would be a wall to them.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

Time =/= Difficulty

If you can collect one, you can collect ten, or one hundred. The question is when does it stop becoming fun to do?

Personally I'd like the see the grindy steps taken out entirely and replaced with actual skill based encounters. Of course those against the idea are content with their easy grind, because an actual challenge would be a wall to them.

If you want an actual challenge for an i275 weapon there's Alexander Savage. Relic was never meant to be challenging but it IS meant to be time consuming.

[Driavna]

If you want an actual challenge for an i275 weapon there's Alexander Savage. Relic was never meant to be challenging but it IS meant to be time consuming.

Bingo, Relics are there to keep people busy. Also for Anima you don't need to do anything special, daily stuff is enough not like Z weapons.

[Gemina]

Bingo, Relics are there to keep people busy. Also for Anima you don't need to do anything special, daily stuff is enough not like Z weapons.

I find even current nerfed-to-oblivion Z-relics more difficult to obtain IF it is your first time leveling a class to 50+. I did two of them, separately. I am currently working on two animas simultaneously and the stress is nowhere near what it was for the Z-relics despite being my first jobs to 60.

But I agree, it is meant to be a time dump. It is meant to be grindy. Relics are a great way to keep a player occupied and into instances that are also being ran by others for a myriad of reasons. And in the end, you get a REALLY nice glamour; suitable for combat well into the next expansion, that cannot be obtained any other way. It baffles me that people gripe about choosing to partake optional content.

[Greedalox]

I quite enjoy the grindy aspects. I disagree that completely taking out the grind and switching it out with pure challenge content would solve anything, because really the only content that could replace the hours of grinding with challenge would be 4-8-12 Savage level. At that point you could just do A12S for a 275 anyhoo.