Question about Palace of the Dead about a recent encounter

[Kaethra]

Its pretty simple.

If you run with the intent to speedrun and skipping chests. Don't do a matched party.
If you run with the intent to get the silver chests. Don't do a matched party.

Yes its contradictory. That's just how it is when running with randoms.

With that said. I'll usually do a little of both. I will usually speedrun 51-60. You really shouldn't be running floors 51-100 with under 50/50 and around 60/60 you Rarely get upgrades in 51-60. Plus speed runners like to run 51-60. So I usually let them do so as a matter of compromise.

61+... yeah usually people need silvers so I go scout rooms to see silvers. While trying to do so in a manner that slows the group down the least. If everyone's higher than the floor set, I'll try to speedrun it. Why stay any longer in rooms that give little benefit?

I do chastise people for going for every gold chest. That's a bit redundant and becomes a mimic trap that spreads pox when you don't have a dedicated healer. On the way gold chests I don't mind. But killing six mobs for a pomander of alteration is a bit annoying.

As for votekicking.. I do this for the following reasons:

1. D/C for more than 5 minutes. They're probably not coming back, and we need to get the queue open ASAP as not many know how to turn on 'join in progress' and have the same floor set they are queuing for.

2. AFK unannounced for longer than 5ish (maybe longer depending on when it happens). I get that RL happens. But our RL already happened and now your RL is cutting into our non-RL time. That's not fair. I'll give leeway on emergencies, but unannounced, is less so.

3. Disparaging attitudes and just jerk behavior. This goes without saying. Jokes are fine. Being mean for the sake of it. Nope.

4. Non-participation. If you wanted to speed run and we're on floor 74, and most of the party is 60/60-70/70... pump your brakes. We're gonna check for silvers. But if you want to be in such a hurry that you're wasting time by sitting on an unopened exit instead of helping us clear quicker. I'll help you out of the dungeon quicker, since that's your goal.

And from what I've seen in most matched parties, that's the general rules. Everything else is mostly hearsay and one time events.

[Atlaworks]

How is this topic still a thing people wonder about? What is this talk of "But silver chests are more important!"?

Dude, you don't get to decide what's important to anyone but yourself.

I could be there because I want to one-ilm punch a mimic to death, for all I care, it's just as valid as whatever anyone else wants to do, and you nor anyone else get to decide what is more or less important to anyone but yourself. If people are of like mind or willing to put up with it, cool. But majority rules- if you can't handle randos, better go make a static of people you know will be of like mind. It's just that simple. There's no rocket science to it at all- it's always "Don't like randos, make a static" in ANY non-solo content. This ain't any different.

[LalaRu]

Now, I wanna know what the community thinks on this....
'Solo or fixed only. Matched is only for EXP speed runs'

"EXP speed runs" are the ones that needs go to fixed party. Matched is a PUG and you meet mixed goals.

'90 % of people are leveling in POTD, and then tourists come making runs longer'

This is the POV of someone that is using matched party and expecting everyone adapt to HIS needs.

[SenorPatty]

Snip.

How do you keep using a clause in the ToS that can work just as equally in PotD for you or myself to prove your point? You said not participating is this particular ToS violation.

So killing monsters to activate the passage and waiting there, thus ensuring that I'm part of the floor progression is not participating but ignoring someone who wants to go far off into the floor after chests, which btw does not progress the floor, is?

I never stated I was speed running. I just offer a compromise. I don't step on people's toes when they go through a swath of monsters to get what they want and I hope they extend the same courtesy when I wait for them.

You on the other hand explicitly have said in many potd related threads that if people don't bend to your requests, they're ToS violators and they're not doing anything.

At least be honest with yourself and just express displeasure and don't try to hide behind your interpretation of a clause that basically suits everyone equally.

Edit: I also see your PvP contention has resurfaced. This explains so much. No wonder you and your friend always seem like you have a bad time ingame. You think the game works for yourselves

[Kaethra]

Your first post also suggests you are kick abusing at times, and you can be reported on that as well.

I don't believe many of you know what kick abuse is. Here's a list of things attributed to it:

1. Going in as a premade with the intent of kicking randoms for the sake of it.
2. Kicking someone for their race, orientation, ethnicity, nationality, gender, religion, ect. (enforceable only if there is some ingame chat dialogue attached)

That's literally it.

You all can argue other points. But those two are the only actionable offenses. Everything else is up to the players. Majority does get to decide who they are in a party with as they ought to be able to pick and choose.

With that said.. if you sit on the exit and don't help kill agro'd mobs from a legitimate pull (as determined by the majority) expect to get booted. You can cry foul all you want. Even if you were right, you're still booted. Who you gonna report? It takes 2 out of 3 other group members to report. Which one did it? Which one agreed? And what would the punishment be? A 3hr ban during Japanese primetime (when someone finally gets around to looking at the ticket), while the offenders are asleep? Yeah that isn't gonna discourage anyone from booting lazy peeps.