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    Ry0uSh1n's Avatar
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    Ryoushin Mizuki
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    Paladin Lv 70

    Mogstation and New Content

    TL;DR - The mogstation is pure greed. Before mogstation introduction a players subscription entitled players to all new content not tied to a promo or event outside the game. Now, the mogstation will be where all new content goes that is not tied to events or promo's outside of game.

    With the introduction of the mogstation it seems more and more new content that isnt obtainable via any other means, in game quests, special events, or even promotions, has been straight to the mogstation. Given that before the mogstation was introduced the player base could obtain items via the list means. Everything was obtainable in-game. Unless it was a fan fest or a promo like the current one with amazon with the DLC.

    As much as I wish this was still the normal routine with all new content, it isnt. Unless a item or items is part of a promo or some other means, everything now is straight to mogstation. Given that back before the introduction of the mogstation I never let my sub lapse due to the fact I did not want to miss out on events or one time chances at obtaining items. If someone missed out on a event and then those items should up the following year those items will be on the mogstation.

    I understand fantasia and additional retainers. Keep those up on mogstation. But when new content is straight to mogstation, it makes me wonder does SE truly want my money? Since the introduction of mogstation I've let my subscription lapse numerous times because the desire to stay subscribed has sunk. Oh no what about veteran rewards. Those do not matter to me as when ever my account would reach the required time needed to meet the next reward I'll receive that reward.

    If this were a free to play game by all means, straight to mogstation I could cold heartedly agree on. Yet it is a subscription based. Which in turn should grant myself and many others who feel the same way access to all new content that is not tied to a promo or event outside the game. Given that before the mogstation was introduced there did not seem to be a issue with new content being received in game.

    If SE were so adamant on using the mogstation for additional income, instead of holiday events, valentines, Easter, and the like, have events on a biweekly timer with items attained during events. If someone missed the event then those items will be on the mogstation during the time period of the next event.

    This is not the case though. The mighty $$$ has overturned this venture. In my opinion this needs to change otherwise what does my subscription pair for?

    Before the mog station, my subscription entitled me to all new content that was released. Be it emotes, event specific gear, weapon glamours. If it was fanfest related or a promo outside the game that I chose to miss out on, than that was my loss.

    No aside from expansions, the things that subscribers could have gotten by maintaining there subs are straight to the mogstation because of one simple reason.. Greed. I have nothing against putting past items/emotes/gear sets up on the mogstation. As stated before, that gives someone the opportunity to purchase those items.

    Same applies to promo items or fanfest items. If these items find their way onto the mog station I am not against it. What I am against is items/emotes/gear sets that arent even tied to anything outside the game being put straight onto the mogstation. This in turn is the greed or paywall.

    Given that if the content was released into the game via ingame content then the paywall would be the players subscription cost. Nothing more nothing less. Now the paywall is subscription cost + cost of the item. Something has to give. But since the wool has been pulled over the majority of the communities eye's the mighty $$$ will win everytime.

    With that said, I honestly believe stormblood will be my last adventure through FFXIV. Not looking forward to the new relic/anima grind in 4.0-4.1. Already see it being a copy/paste of farm fates because hey fates are fun and SE must promote how so many players are adventuring through the massive zones of FFXIV. Please look forward too it.
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Why can't we have innovative in game questlines for the mogstation stuff? :thinking:
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    Reginaux Vannaire
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    People are willing to pay and Square Enix knows it. Nothing wrong here.
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    Doki Waku
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    It's all just glamor. Nothing on there is something that effects your ability to play the game or "win."
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    Ririta Rita
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_aliYN8hNk

    I miss those days. The Lightning event, the Shantotto event, the Dragon Quest event... quests for minions and emotes being added with little story lines for them (such as the Coeurl Kitty or the living snowman who wanted to eat snowballs). Nowadays it's all mogstation, veteran rewards, real life toys...

    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    It's all just glamor. Nothing on there is something that effects your ability to play the game or "win."
    Winning is subjective, for some it may be clearing the latest raid, for others it may be controlling the market boards, etc.
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    Last edited by Ririta; 04-27-2017 at 08:31 AM.

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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    If we want more features, upgrades to infrastructure and more content per patch, SE needs to increase revenue to justify it. Which would you prefer: We get very little new stuff, we get a subscription price hike or we have a cash shop?

    If we want more, SE needs to raise more revenue to pay for it. People keep hating on the cash shop but I will ask this. If the cash shop was removed and all the stuff in it was unavailable, would you feel that the actual content you get for your sub, the patches, was worth your money? If the answer is yes then you are getting your money's worth regardless of the existence of the case shop. If the answer is no then the cash shop stuff frankly won't make a lick of difference because its not substancial enough to make much of a difference in the amount of content we get in game.

    People often want more but don't want to pay any more for it. How is this any less pure greed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ririta View Post
    I miss those days. The Lightning event, the Shantotto event, the Dragon Quest event... quests for minions and emotes being added with little story lines for them (such as the Coeurl Kitty or the living snowman who wanted to eat snowballs). Nowadays it's all mogstation, veteran rewards, real life toys...
    We have had 2 major events recently, one of which is still running. In both events they offered a full set of weapons. One event offered 12 minions and the other offers multiple armor sets. Lets not pretend we aren't still getting in game events that give rewards.
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    Last edited by Belhi; 04-27-2017 at 08:44 AM.

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    Mako Hext
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    Mogstation isn't going anywhere, so why keep making these rant threads? You're in the minority, the majority don't mind tossing some cash for extra cosmetic perks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    We have had 2 major events recently, one of which is still running. In both events they offered a full set of weapons. One event offered 12 minions and the other offers multiple armor sets. Lets not pretend we aren't still getting in game events that give rewards.
    2.0 - 2.2 was the peak and it's never coming back
    Obligatory seasonal events aren't really impressive. Especially when instead of buying the old stuff from vendors you buy them by paying real money lol
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    Leviathan
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    Everything is a business. The sooner people realize gaming isn't excluded from that, the better. Whether or not you, I or anyone else agrees with the mog station is irrelevant. Money has and always will control everything.
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    Will Brannigan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    Why can't we have innovative in game questlines
    Devs are worried about alienating newbies and those with zero gaming/problem solving skills. They make shitty content for veterans in order to attempt to attract a constant stream of new players who might be lured by a shiny cash shop item. Something like Palace of the Dead had infinite potential to be a really interesting experience that actually tests your ability to solve puzzles and play your class. Instead, entry is allowed right at level 17 and it's designed to be able to be completed with no healer and no tank.
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    Last edited by Brannigan; 04-27-2017 at 10:56 AM.

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