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    Delorean's Avatar
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    Altani Dotharl
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    I have always liked Warrior because of their damage capability but do not know where they stand now in that regard. Paladin is a bit boring and dark knight although very cool seems very convoluted. You really have to pay attention as a Warrior though. You can't just tank everything with your face.

    I remember doing Turn 5 for the first time as a Warrior, I was MT. It was hard to stay alive if I did not use Inner Beast immediately following a Death Sentence.
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    Xyasreau Borlaaq
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post
    I have always liked Warrior because of their damage capability but do not know where they stand now in that regard. Paladin is a bit boring and dark knight although very cool seems very convoluted. You really have to pay attention as a Warrior though. You can't just tank everything with your face.

    I remember doing Turn 5 for the first time as a Warrior, I was MT. It was hard to stay alive if I did not use Inner Beast immediately following a Death Sentence.
    I'd have to disagree. WAR is by far the easiest tank class, and even the easiest class to perform well with in the game. With it's short yet powerful cooldowns, you're hardly even punished as hard for blowing them early and if you needed a CD and all of your options were expended, you would just IB. The class is a 5 button wonder that gets the best results for the least amount of effort expended. (Hur dur Storm's Eye > BB > Fell Cleave on cooldown.)

    PLD at the very least needs to put thought on when to use Goring and its OGCDs aswell as struggle against its own poor design(lul).
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    Eyuris Bluefire
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    I'd have to disagree. WAR is by far the easiest tank class, and even the easiest class to perform well with in the game.
    I'd have to disagree, simply because both WAR and DRK have something PLD does not - currency that can be spent either offensively or defensively.
    While the toolkit of WAR is in no means harder to utilize than PLD, it's the management of Wrath stacks that make or break a good WAR.
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    Last edited by Ayuris; 05-16-2017 at 01:20 AM.

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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post
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    It depends. WAR is definitely the most pug friendly tank, since you are capable of self-sufficiently maximizing your performance no matter how poorly the rest of your party plays. It is the least needy job in the game and so people that otherwise play very poorly (NINs that don't Shadewalker, ranged that don't Quell, a fellow WAR co tank that spams BB, or a SCH that doesn't hop out of cleric to shield for busters, for instance) will think you are just the bees knees.

    DRK (and to a lesser extent PLD) on the other hand, really require team coordination to maximize, and if you try and play optimally on DRK in a pug group that isn't prepared to coordinate things like shields, tank swaps, and aggro management, bad things are going to happen and their dumb asses are going to blame you.

    TL;DR WAR permits your group to play poorly as a team and ignore a lot of their utilities, whereas the other tanks force everyone to use their tools to the fullest if they want to get an optimal run.
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    Venjiwenji Lala
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    It depends. WAR is definitely the most pug friendly tank, since you are capable of self-sufficiently maximizing your performance no matter how poorly the rest of your party plays. It is the least needy job in the game and so people that otherwise play very poorly (NINs that don't Shadewalker, ranged that don't Quell, a fellow WAR co tank that spams BB, or a SCH that doesn't hop out of cleric to shield for busters, for instance) will think you are just the bees knees.
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    TL;DR WAR permits your group to play poorly as a team and ignore a lot of their utilities, whereas the other tanks force everyone to use their tools to the fullest if they want to get an optimal run.
    Thing is....people read stuff like this, and think WAR's are gods, and no matter how FUBAR they play, we'll handle it no sweat. Reality says that fails miserably, because a lot of WAR meta is based on forum myths.
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