Thread: So I'm not seeing how this is them changing things up from 2.0/3.0

From reading this, I feel like I am the only one who is happy that we get the same. I like the game the way it is, I am not saying it can't improve but I like the way progression works in FFXIV.

Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko

1. No intention of adding new character customization options in the future.
2. Maps the same size as Heavensward with the same amount of areas.
3. Hunts returning in the same mindless zerg fashion.
4. No new graphical options.
5. More tomestones and they'll have the same weekly limitations.

We're getting an underwater feature, but so far it seems as if this is the same "safe" expansion Heavensward was. What's really here that's going to shake things up for the players? All the vibes I'm getting at the moment is that this is another Heavensward, which is confusing as the budget is a lot higher.

I don't think SE is going to change anything up unless they start losing subscribers. As long as there are an abundance of pseudo-gamers willing to fork over a monthly fee (and additional cash via the Mog Station) for a dress-up simulator with a shallow layer of PvE content layered over it, that's exactly what we're going to get.

At this point, the only motivating factor I have for Stormblood is the storyline. I'll be waiting for reviews, of course, before purchasing (especially since SE is charging a rather-high $40 for the expansion). That's about the only 'fresh' thing the expansion appears to be offering.

R: Before 2.0, you described this system where beast tribes would summon Primals in the open world and you’d be able to fight them outside instanced battles and Free Companies could go fight them. Has this idea been completely discarded or is it still in plans in some form?
Y: It is planned as content, and it's still a thing. But it’s a matter of when it would be a perfect fit to have that content released. If the community becomes very tight-knit and sort of like closed almost, kind of like on auto-pilot. If and when that happens is when I feel it’s appropriate to release this kind of content; I'm envisioning a guild versus guild type of scenario. I feel that releasing the content is still way too early at this point, had it not been for so many players being on FF14 yes that’s still kind of the reason we’re needing to monitor the situation. At the time of 2.0 development, we didn’t expect so many people joining the community.

This is a statement that bugs me the most. The problem isn't the community but rather the game design. The entire game can be played from town with random people from other servers. You group up with them, say hi and bye, and never see them again so you never have a chance to "befriend" them. Studies show the people you are most likely to be friends with are school and work associates. This is because these are the people you see on a daily bases and have communication with. Reason older MMORPG had tight-knit community is because it was closed world and you kept seeing the same people over and over. You would group up and eventual form guilds.

Now I'm not saying DF queue is a bad thing but you need a healthy mix of Open World and Open Data Center content. We still can't even form alliances in open world for FATE and Hunts, seriously come on SE. I'm also not saying we need FFXI's HNM battles either but need open world group content. You can even add a World based Duty Finder to make it easier be matched up with people.

Originally Posted by Dyvid

The entire game can be played from town with random people from other servers. You group up with them, say hi and bye, and never see them again so you never have a chance to "befriend" them. Reason older MMORPG had tight-knit community is because it was closed world and you kept seeing the same people over and over. You would group up and eventual form guilds.

Now I'm not saying DF queue is a bad thing but you need a healthy mix of Open World and Open Data Center content. We still can't even form alliances in open world for FATE and Hunts, seriously come on SE. I'm also not saying we need FFXI's HNM battles either but need open world group content. You can even add a World based Duty Finder to make it easier be matched up with people.

Older games also had a much smaller population in said open world. People go nuts if you don't wait 10 minutes for hunts. more open world stuff would make the community WORSE, not better.

Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Older games also had a much smaller population in said open world. People go nuts if you don't wait 10 minutes for hunts. more open world stuff would make the community WORSE, not better.

I would like to see open world content that uses spawning items that we obtain as an FC, kinda like sea from XI or another form in which people are not made to compete for content. I think it can be done, when people say open world content they automatically think of how its been done in the past and reiterate why they are not done in the present, but the future doesn't have to be the past? We can do better?

Originally Posted by Marcellus_Cassius

I would like to see open world content that uses spawning items that we obtain as an FC, kinda like sea from XI or another form in which people are not made to compete for content. I think it can be done, when people say open world content they automatically think of how its been done in the past and reiterate why they are not done in the present, but the future doesn't have to be the past? We can do better?

We have that with maps and FATEs, but those don't count for some reason. Theres actually quite a bit to do in the open world, people just complain "thats not what we want"

Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

We have that with maps and FATEs, but those don't count for some reason. Theres actually quite a bit to do in the open world, people just complain "thats not what we want"

It's a fair point most people ignore World content but I would counter that the rewards are secondary to those you need in DF. People are always going to take the path of easiest gains. The rewards should work in tandem with rather than counter too instance content. As for new content, I would be happy with Guildleve having a light party/full party option and Beast tribe having a two or three quest for party play. Couple that with open world alliances and party filller queue; a lot of the complaints would be solved.