Thread: So I'm not seeing how this is them changing things up from 2.0/3.0

I'm pretty happy. Don't fix what isn't broken.

Would have liked more character customization options, but our existing ones aren't exactly bad. Tomestones are forever, nothing new there. The dungeon changes are nice, I like guaranteed loot as its been described.

Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko

All the vibes I'm getting at the moment is that this is another Heavensward, which is confusing as the budget is a lot higher.

Looks more like Heavensward Lite to me so far. Same thing with a few things less - Maybe they'll allow you to upgrade to the full version via mog station (And if:"Mog Station" isn't a meme yet, it's overdue to become one).

Originally Posted by Zojha

Looks more like Heavensward Lite to me so far. Same thing with a few things less - Maybe they'll allow you to upgrade to the full version via mog station (And if:"Mog Station" isn't a meme yet, it's overdue to become one).

Yeah...I mean like, we aren't even getting a new race so what's the issue with adding new character customizations? If there's a bigger budget, why not add something? Starting to wonder if this is rushed.

I dont understand why people even want fundamental changes to the game and are disappointed when they dont get them... I mean, if you dont want to play a game that works like this, why are you playing this game?

I can understand that the lack of more new content to the old features (as in: more character creation for example) is a bit disappointing, but seriously... why do people seem to expect a totally new game? I for one am happy with "more of the same formula" - if I want something breathing take new, I buy a new (and different) game.

1. They actually ARE planning to add more features later. Initially though, no.
2. Heavensward maps were already a major step above ARRs maps. Add in the dimension of underwater and perhaps it'll at least feel bigger.
3. People wanted open world content, so here you go. I'm personally not a hunt fan, but it has its audience.
4. The overall graphics and visuals are increasing such that they've had to change the minimum system requirements. Beyond that, they are pushing for 4K/PS4 Pro support.
5. While the endgame currency formula isn't changing, it would seem loot systems for dungeons is, AF gear returns to being a quest reward, and there's been no mention yet of crafted or other options.

Please look a bit more carefully. It's WAY to early to start tapping your foot and doomsaying. Furthermore, I've said several times that if people are expecting a huge departure from the way things are, they're not likely to be satisfied.

Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

I've said several times that if people are expecting a huge departure from the way things are, they're not likely to be satisfied.

Lol what? People are wanting something besides rehashed content, we're not asking the world here. Perhaps 2.0 and 3.0 have confused people what should be expected, especially so when they themselves mention they weren't going to play it as safe this time around.

Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko

Lol what? People are wanting something besides rehashed content, we're not asking the world here. Perhaps 2.0 and 3.0 have confused people what should be expected, especially so when they themselves mention they weren't going to play it as safe this time around.

When you want something different than "rehashed" content, you're basically asking for a new game. So yeah, that kind of demand weighs far heavier on the devs than you are acknowledging.

There is nothing wrong with using a formula that is working. It creates a foundation of which to build off of. It's crazy to me that people are griping about SBs content when they have yet to set one foot in it.

Since I subbed, HW has been praised time and time again. And now that we are getting close to SB launch, suddenly it's become hackneyed?

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Define different. Do you want more innovative in dungeon design, steeper challenges or the whole GCD reduced? Two of those things are reasonable expectations to push for, the latter isn't. Tomestones fall into a similar category. They need some way of limiting gear progression in order to incentivize content. Increasing the base cap from 450? Could be done without rocking the boat, so to speak. Making it unlimited? Never going to happen. So what, if I may ask, would you fancy seeing?

I don't want something specific, but in the same regard, I want the content to be different. I've played many MMORPG's over the past decade and generally an expansion will change how you obtain something to a certain degree, and will change the fights to the a certain degree, and will just make things different enough to where it's interesting, but it's still the same game in the process.

I'm not here to shoot direct ideas to them, I'd like to see them invent ideas that surprise me, and honestly, at this point, I'd be easily surprised because their content of 2.0 and 3.0 is too vastly similar that anything that would rock the boat would be enough to wow me.

If I were to ask for something specific, I'd ask them to stop doing the same thing. The gameplay itself will remain as it should, but the container it is in can vary and give us new experiences. That's what I desire.