A consern about space efficieny since stormblood is not getting enough space increase

[Princess_Momoka]

Not limited only to "storage," but also UI improvements are desperately needed. Retainer costs pretty much double the cost of the subscription. Why is the UI so lack luster to look at and cumbersome to use? One would think more attention would be given to an area of the game that brings in so much alleged revenue.

I actually hope they don't add additional retainers. With the current UI, I can't imagine the chore it would be managing more than eight.

8 IS A CHORE, that is what the TC meant by lowering the menu bloat and menu selections I bet, seeing they suggested to remove item management from retainers and just be there for ventures is a good idea, that way there is NO EXCUSE of "our servers can't handle them" it is a 1.0 coding problem, so cut out the problem completely and give us a bank?

[Jybril]

While the OP and others have made great discussion and suggestions, I'm just afraid this will fall on deaf ears with SE.
We have far too many items in this game for our tiny little space. SE's suggestion? Go BUY more retainers to help out.
Oh wait, not BUY but RENT and it tags on our monthly free. I feel as this is completely unacceptable in a subscription based game.

Do not release hundreds of items each patch and not give us any more free space.
The little bit that we got was filled up for me near instantly. Not because I horde, it's because I keep green/blue gear now for glamour and re-levelin purposes.
Crafting items is the huge problem too. It is so much worse if you're a heavy crafter.

To add, this game is incredibly alt unfriendly.
I bet most of us would be happy if we can just stash stuff in alts.
Key Items slot - I have 4 things in there. I would rather them merge this and add us more inventory slots.
There's not enough key items to kept from what I have, and most are just quest items that leave after the quest.

A 3rd retainer would also alleviate the bloat. SE needs to get with it. Stop the nickle and diming us.
I also find it kinda funny when they give the "limitations" excuse or whatever.
I mean, How much money do you guys need from us at this point?

[Bruh]

With everything said by OP, I agree entirely! But if I were to level one criticism...


It's *concern.

[Chiapet]

The crafts need to rethought out. Ive seen steady increase From 1.0 to 3.0 recipe items. Why do we need 4 or more logs to make one piece of lumber really ... vs the 3 logs we needed in ARR. Are we pressing the cut logs together? I feel like this Dev team needs a position .. Like someone to look over things and trim the fat. They're always saying well this or that is stressing out their servers when we ask for help in bag space but It doesn't seem they're actively looking into things to cut or consolidate. It would benefit both us and them.

All the cack matter for repairs could be compressed into one. and things like new af need to be ready for the Armoire or at the very least let us buy things from an NPC somewhere for cheap.

[Alleo]

I will keep discussing this until they change it! And if they do not plan to do something for this even in 5.0 or are truly just putting in a glamour history I am just going to say goodbye..no need to keep giving them money if they do nothing about one of their biggest issue right now. (The next is housing for me)

I started to play Rift two days ago and I am just amazed how simple their glamour book functions. No unnecessary prism, no need to store glamour. Just get it once and you can glamour it over the character...and it stays even if you get something new so you dont need to do it again and again. (You just need to save the new glamour if you want to change it) This game also has 20 active dimensions that each player can have where you can create your own homes..I think I am in love with this game. I know that its not that good looking like FF14 and that the story itself might not be that great but its a one time deal anyway and story was never one of the biggest points in most MMO for me. (And its F2P too)

[Niwashi]

Does anyone want a glamor history? this is not a fix.

It depends what that term means. If he's just talking about a recent history list of the last few items you've glamoured, that's completely worthless. But if it's a permanent history of every glamourable item you've had or glamoured starting from when the feature is activated, that's the basis of the glamour log we've been asking for. All they'd need to add then is the ability to glamour from that history rather than just inventory and we'd be set.

[Princess_Momoka]

It depends what that term means. If he's just talking about a recent history list of the last few items you've glamoured, that's completely worthless. But if it's a permanent history of every glamourable item you've had or glamoured starting from when the feature is activated, that's the basis of the glamour log we've been asking for. All they'd need to add then is the ability to glamour from that history rather than just inventory and we'd be set.

I am willing to bet it is more like the crafting history or something. I do not want to "settle" on something like that, we need a glam log, plain and simple

The crafts need to rethought out. Ive seen steady increase From 1.0 to 3.0 recipe items. Why do we need 4 or more logs to make one piece of lumber really ... vs the 3 logs we needed in ARR. Are we pressing the cut logs together? I feel like this Dev team needs a position .. Like someone to look over things and trim the fat. They're always saying well this or that is stressing out their servers when we ask for help in bag space but It doesn't seem they're actively looking into things to cut or consolidate. It would benefit both us and them.

All the cack matter for repairs could be compressed into one. and things like new af need to be ready for the Armoire or at the very least let us buy things from an NPC somewhere for cheap.

Have you add up all the items you need for yellow scripts? It is insane. I made like 90 Zelkova Lumber and i am sitting here, where did that all go? after just 4 tools.

I am really finding it hard being able to craft 61>70 +2 star now because of all the items, give us more space or start removing items!

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You are exaggerating. Tools are 1 lumber each, and not every tool requires lumber.

[Princess_Momoka]

You are exaggerating. Tools are 1 lumber each, and not every tool requires lumber.

No I am not. I was talking about how many materials you need to get for yellow script tools. It is not 1 lumber each, I have no idea where you are coming from to say that. I mathed out before how much twin thread you would need if you happened to just have wvr at 70 (yeah right I will stick to BSM turn ins) to get a full set for weaver you need collect 1500 twincoons, I do not know what SE was thinking. I made 90 lumbers around, ( about 45 x 2 times, I did not do it all in one sitting) for the turn ins I was doing for ARM and BSM (the 2 different resets today)to get..... tools (GSM, BSM, ALC) .. Sorry I went though 90 lumbers today doing those 3, I had waver and LTW before hand. I did not keep track what I did yesterday for LTW and WVR. I baught 2 and a half stacks of 99 of Molybdenum Ingots and im down to 37. Then I needed a midsize amount of Tama-hagane Ingots leading to need huge amounts of sand and ore. I got those by a mix of gathering and bought from the MB. The need 4 x for a mat only for that mat to go into something else that needs 4x is hell when a game suffers from lack of space as is. I do not even understand why it requires iron ore when I can just by that for 14 gil each from a NPC, it should be removed from the synth, and other items like it, like Koppranickel Nugget. Adding in a mat that costs 14 gil from a npc is not a gil sink, is not challenging, it is just plain annoying with a game with inventory problems.

[Katsuragi_]

I thought it was pretty telling when he said that there was a huge difference between people who buy extra retainers and those who don't. Does that mean they think people who don't buy extra retainers have no need for better storage options? If so, they are still missing the fundamental issue that storage and personal inventory are and should be 2 different things.

I'm pretty sure he understands fully that people who don't, don't because they can't and aren't willing to and people who do rent them probably have as many as they can.

I mean, they aren't stupid.

And? In the end SE is a business with every right and valid reason to force a captive audience into buying more.

If you wanna go there, it's actually a crime to not do what's within your power towards increasing profits for your shareholders.
There is however the question of whether you want profit in the long run or just a quick cashgrab, which in turn would actually probably make your company look like crap and devalue it.


Anyway, on to my opinion: I don't think Yoshi meant anything other than having a catalog of collected glamours, much like WoW's transmog log.
I cannot think of committing resources to anything else that you could interpret his statement as as having any sense.