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  1. #1
    Player
    LunaFaye's Avatar
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    Luna Faye
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 51
    I'll take a closer look at the dps's performance nowadays. Healers and Tanks got my commendations in 2.x, because to that time they actually had a harder time performing, especially when tortured with a new tank in STR gear that wouldn't pop any cool down what so ever.

    With HW healers can pretty much go afk, and while their dps might be welcoming in some parties for me personally that doesn't deserve a commendation anymore, because we've done that in ARR already, as well as solo healed content some people now think is "skilled" or "outstanding", when it has been done in ilvl 90 gear and under already.

    On the other side compared to ARR content dps has suffered a lot and it's more noticeable,it's like a win in the lottery if you find a dps in expert roulette or anywhere that can actually perform decently. But that's about it, maybe 1 person out of 10000 dungeons will have a outstanding performance but let's not fool ourselves because that's super rare. If I see a dps that at least accomplishes "decent" or close to that, he/she will get my commendation, if not I'll leave the run without giving any commendation to anybody.
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    BaconAurora's Avatar
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    Frying Pan
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    Bacon Aurora
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 45
    I find getting comms easy, rarely ever not getting one.

    Basically say hi, bye and don't let people die. Never failed me
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  3. #3
    Player
    Maero's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Well as of late (especially Dun Scaith and Weeping City) healers always seem to die, or not even heal so not many comms being sent their way.
    Comes down to performance, that is who gets my vote
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    In my experience, I seem to get more comms when I'm playing AST compared to BRD (since people tend to comm tanks or healers, and just ignore us DPS v.v). I usually don't care too much about commendations; the only time I get salty is when I am consistently having to raise party members (this is usually in my Dun Scaith runs), where I'm literally the only party member not dying, where I'm sharing Balances among DPS if I'm holding a Balance already, and don't draw a Spire/Ewer to spread it but instead a second Balance, and basically just being a god (no, I am not trying to sound or be arrogant here), and walk away with one or no comms. That's the only time I get mad about commendations, but usually that anger only lasts for about five minutes.

    I comm for different reasons, and I tend to comm other DPS if I notice that they are doing more than just hitting 1-2-3.

    If I see a BRD playing me Foe's while I'm DPSing on AST, they automatically get my comm. Same if I see them pop MP song for myself if I'm running low, or TP song for some of the TP-starved melee without anyone having to ask for MP/TP. Plus, I'm partial to BRD anyways since it's my main, and if I see a good BRD, they're more deserving of my comm than a tank or healer, who usually just get brownie points for showing up, imo.

    If the DPS suck, I'll comm the tank if they did a decent job holding aggro, and if they knew what cooldowns were and how to properly use them. Bonus points if they're a DRK that consistently keep up BOTH Grit and Darkside during the majority of pulls.

    If I'm running 8-man or 24-man content, and I have an amazing co-healer, I usually comm them, especially if they are another AST, and coordinate card usage and sects with me.

    If the entire group was just subpar, I don't comm anyone. If I feel like throwing them a pity bone, I'll comm whoever died the least.

    However, sometimes I comm people that others would think probably don't deserve comms. If I am running something with a sprout, and I can tell that they are trying really hard to do well, even if they die a lot or don't have the best DPS or rotation, I still comm them because at least they are trying. Bonus points if they're given advice from another party member, and take said advice to heart.

    Sometimes I comm a person who I think is funny, or who makes the run less boring. Sometimes I comm someone if they use a funny macro. And sometimes I comm on things like character name or glamour.

    Commendations are more or less subjective, so I don't hold them to much value usually. If your lack of comms seems to be a consistent and pervasive thing, however, I would take a few moments to look back on your individual performance in duties, and see if there is anything you think you can do to improve. Just keep in mind that there are those that just don't comm at all, or only comm 5 times a week to get the Challenge Log entry.

    Side note for myself (and this goes for some people I know as well): I don't care how well a player is doing, or how god-like they are, the minute they post some "Thank you for the party! If you liked me, give me your commendation! I almost have XXXX comms!" macro, they automatically lose my comm. Commendation begging just annoys me more than someone outright sucking at their role.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

    마지막 날 널 찾아가면
    마지막 밤 기억하길

    Hyomin Park#0055

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    Valmaxian's Avatar
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    Jase Shepard
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    I think healers get TONS of commendations - its DPS classes I feel bad for. Aside from seeing who's highest on the aggro table, their contribution is more subtle than constantly fluctuating health bars and flashy buffs/healer AoEs. I have a lot of comms, and I play 270/270 AST/SMN about equally. I'd say 80% or more are from healing (I swear I don't suck at SMN! XD). When I give out comms, I always try to consider the DPS first.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Character
    Flower Girl
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valmaxian View Post
    its DPS classes I feel bad for. Aside from seeing who's highest on the aggro table, their contribution is more subtle than constantly fluctuating health bars and flashy buffs/healer AoEs. I have a lot of comms, and I play 270/270 AST/SMN about equally. I'd say 80% or more are from healing (I swear I don't suck at SMN! XD). When I give out comms, I always try to consider the DPS first.
    same here whm/smn main. 2 things which give me a slight direction directly at the start of every df content is watching your companies comp/gear and than... wait for the first mass-mob and see how they react and perform as a grp with synergy or not. thats all you need to know/see if someone is on fire or just on an agenda run... most of the times (although not every run) I know very early if and who will get my com tho. especially on healers side im a bit fussy... its not just about support dps but about improvise, reaction and prevention - Seeing people die on dots or doom (currently farming d4 normal for a twink and without kidding doom kill people there EVERY freaking time...)... is like "how did you even come to your charlevel?"... wanna com? work for it q.q
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    Last edited by Neela; 12-13-2017 at 07:49 PM.

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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valmaxian View Post
    - its DPS classes I feel bad for. Aside from seeing who's highest on the aggro table, their contribution is more subtle than constantly fluctuating health bars and flashy buffs/healer AoEs.
    I wouldn't worry too much, I main DPS - since I started in Apr 2015 - and have 2,466 comms. Most of that time, I was playing DRG in fact. Since getting my DRG to 70(was first one I did), I've switched to RDM as my main, I've gotten much less comms than when I played DRG. And that's with almost always ressing people in 8/24-man content. Take last night for instance, ran Rabanasty and during Hashy I was ALWAYS at near empty MP. The two SMN were almost always full(when alive...one of them didn't dodge so well, same with the PLD and one of the healers..and our two melee DPS), and my Lucid was always on CD. Didn't get a single comm that run, despite having ressed the healer, SMN, SAM, and PLD multiple times.
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Dravania
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    Character
    Gemina Lunarian
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I typically get at least one per instance, so no issues on my end. However, it does irk me when I know I kicked ass and don't get anything while getting multiple comms when I derp like crazy.
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    bardaboo's Avatar
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    Character
    Kochie Monster
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    I get 2 comms in expert dungeon all the time as bard.
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  10. #10
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    Tizzy_Tormentor's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Tizzy Tormentor
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    I give comms to the players that left the best impression on me, I don't give one to a player just for playing their class, its really pompous to expect comms just for healing.

    Don't expect them, they are a nice bonus for a job well done, expecting them is kind of a bad attitude to have. I mean if every performs well, players still have only one comm to hand out. Yeah getting no comms for turning a run around or carrying everyone else is annoying, but at the end of the day, there isn't much you can do about it.
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