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  1. #11
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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Twintania
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    It isn't fine, but nothing you, I, or anyone else says will change them. .
    I have to agree to that, that's very true. Sadly, this rant is on this forum to make people how frustrating it can be, maybe I was just wrong to tell how I feel how certain players and yes some people on these forums actually say. Maybe it would actually put them in a mood where they would think, ''so what I'm doing is actually wrong?'' But I guess that's not gonna happen. But however, wish you good luck and have fun in the future content and the game !
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  2. #12
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    Makeda's Avatar
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    Edit: Mod might as well close this thread. It's settled as people think the bad attitude towards others are fine, when I completely think it's not. Glad some think that this is wrong and not everyone. However feel free to close it mods.
    Where I disagree with you is on your definition of bad attitude. You seem to be calling 'low skill' an example of bad attitude.
    I consider bad attitude to be people who try ti micro-manage how I play my character, my rotation etc... people who put down others in chat, swear, etc...

    I don't see people who try things they are not up to the challenge of as bad attitude. I see it as people over-estimating what they can do.
    I do see people who make extreme negative judgements or assumptions about the motives of those 'over-achiever' players... as being the ones with the actual bad attitude.

    As someone else also noted in different words... if you want to avoid the risk of being grouped with people who are not as ready for something as they presumed they were, stick to pre-made groups.
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    Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, everywhere is war - Ras Tafari.

  3. #13
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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    Where I disagree with you is on your definition of bad attitude. You seem to be calling 'low skill' an example of bad attitude.
    I consider bad attitude to be people who try ti micro-manage how I play my character, my rotation etc... people who put down others in chat, swear, etc...
    Harrasment comes in many forms, just not telling people harrasment, put down people in chat and so on.
    I'm not going to tell you how to play, I'm simply asking not to play like you werent there at all or barely paying attention to the screen. Why is it harrasment? Because you drag people as hostiles, pretty much force them to carry you on their back, so they can get whatever they want. Fair? No. Not gonna lie either, those players are those who usually talk bad in groups, because if things doesn't go their way, with their attitude of playing, they will simply say; Don't tell me how to play, don't tell me what to do.

    I was in expert, told this WHM stone 3 is better than stone 2. If he wished to aoe, holy has aoe and he said he knew that then told me straight off not to tell him how to play. C'mon we are in a lvl 60 dungeon, use the skill you get after 50 and not before 50?
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  4. #14
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    Hiedra Regaliz
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    Excalibur
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Being bad at the game doesn't make someone rude. Some people just don't know any better.

    Ignoring messages doesn't make you rude either. Sometimes players just don't see the messages.

    I remember when I first did Thornmarch I didn't know that we could ignore the last two moogle tanks and move on to the king. So I kept attacking the tanks while someone in chat kept shouting "STOP! STOP! HELP KILL THE KING!" I didn't see the messages because I was new at the game, back then I couldn't read the chat while fighting because I was always too nervous to take my eyes off the mobs. I'm sure that person thought I was being an idiot but I was genuinely trying my best. After the fight was over I read the messages and told my friend about it. She then explained that I could actually change my settings so that I got a noise notification every time someone sent a party message. Had it not been for her I probably would have screwed up a lot more. Unfortunately not everyone has a friend like that.
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  5. #15
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    Sely Reed
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 50
    Fact:

    1. When we play MMORPG we should keep in mind that it's an online game with so many "People" (a real person) not just NPC. So same as irl you may find people that you'll hate, it's depend on the Majority for vote kick/disband (Democracy lol)

    2. Irl most peoples tend to hold back when they talk, but in-game most peoples just burst out what's in their mind, they have their own opinion and maybe different than you and when their opinion getting attacked it will trigger the argue button.

    Tips :

    1. Don't judge people just by only your own PoV when playing.

    2. Keep a cool head when you think somebody rude to you and don't just going rude back to him/her, in most cases it causes a more trouble to the run.

    3. It's good to learn how to persuade people kindly instead of burst out your emotion and opinion and say thank you if they do what you ask.

    4. Mostly it easy to only use Logic in a solo game, but when it comes to Co-op or even MMO that's not enough
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  6. #16
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    Aisha Clan-clan
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Like previously stated, initiate a vote kick and move on. Don't give into their toxicity or drama.

    I tend to just laugh it off and kick. If it's extremely toxic, I will leave, timer or not. I don't have time for people's BS.

    I suggest running with at least 1 person you know(I always run with a friend or my wife/family) so you have that edge with kicking. I cannot count the times I've had to leave because the other members won't kick the problem.
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  7. #17
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    That A hole. probably not using a keyboard. typed THANKS on their coontroller. So toxic
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  8. #18
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    Reginaux Vannaire
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    Example 2: People who do roulettes who hit 1 button every 10-15 seconds or simply play like they using bot, totally unfair for others. This isn't about doing runs faster, this is about players who completely ignore others in the group. I simply dont mind a 40 min dungeon as people actually try to play.
    This is why I go crying in a corner when people are busy with something else and can't form a premade with me.
    Killing the second boss in Baelsar's Wall before he even has the chance to spawn adds is really nice, whereas sometimes randoms in Duty Finder are so nice to make you kill two add waves.
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  9. #19
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    Amelia Wafflesmack
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    Example 1
    Example 2
    Example 3
    I know exactly what you mean and I am with you. Rudeness comes in many ways and manipulating the dungeon run for 3 other people on purpose is rude!
    For me it's totally fine if people are unexperienced or don't know how to handle their class, but they should at least have an open mind and a good attitude torwards others.

    Just had an expert run this week with a WAR who didn't use any defensive CDs, so I asked him to do so. ('XYZ, could you please use your def CDs so the incoming damge is reduced and I can relax on healing a bit to support with DPS.' was the wording.)
    He stated not being a pro gamer, but his gameplay is totally fine and I should stop complaining. Hm, 'kay, sorry for trying to improve.
    So he chose that way instead of asking if any of us 3 knows a bit about WAR and could give a little hint at how to use the def CDs. I would have gladly explained it to him, but okay.
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  10. #20
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    Mature Rudlum
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    I blacklisted 3 people so far since cross server.

    One talks about what a great SMN he is and is ranked 95 on DPS for a11s (who the f":"#£ gives a toss?? Insecurity alert) But plays a tank and he is sh*t at mechanics. Makes a mistake and laughs about it. Someone else makes a mistake and blames complaints point fingers and leaves .

    One was a healer and when someone makes one mistake he complaints and tells everyone how we all suck and we are all terrible and of course leaves the party.

    And the last one a healer who is another deluded child who joins a farm party if we don't one shot for X reasons DISBANDS the party and blacklists everyone.

    Can we please have an option to BAN deluded MORONS for a week to grow some balls get a grip and come down from cloud 9?
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