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    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    If you want a perfect experience every time, roll with groups of people you know you can trust to meet your standards. You know what you might be getting yourself into with PUGs, so you really don't have any place to complain when you opt-in and get a bad roll on the matchmaking roulette.
    This isn't about perfection, so read my post again. People tend to play like it's totally fine to ignore the others, that type of player exist more than those ''elitist'' people speak off, just saying. In my own experience, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    This isn't about perfection, so read my post again. People tend to play like it's totally fine to ignore the others, that type of player exist more than those ''elitist'' people speak off, just saying. In my own experience, however.
    They exist, so what? There's no reason to come onto the forum and make yet another thread on the same subject to complain. It isn't productive, it serves no real purpose. Do what any well-adjusted adult does, and just move on to the next thing on your personal list of things to do for the day. If they're being legitimately malicious in their actions then kick them for it, but be careful that you don't just kick out of spite or something, as you can suffer GM backlash for that if the person you kick takes offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    They exist, so what? There's no reason to come onto the forum and make yet another thread on the same subject to complain. It isn't productive, it serves no real purpose. Do what any well-adjusted adult does, and just move on to the next thing on your personal list of things to do for the day. If they're being legitimately malicious in their actions then kick them for it, but be careful that you don't just kick out of spite or something, as you can suffer GM backlash for that if the person you kick takes offense.
    So what? Have it occured, like ever occured you, those people I talk about, trash talk a minor group of players in the game? It looks like some people think this attitude is completely fine. Oh well. I guess I will move on and ''complain'' my way out then .

    Edit: Mod might as well close this thread. It's settled as people think the bad attitude towards others are fine, when I completely think it's not. Glad some think that this is wrong and not everyone. However feel free to close it mods.
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    Last edited by akaneakki; 04-27-2017 at 10:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    So what? Have it occured, like ever occured you, those people I talk about, trash talk a minor group of players in the game? It looks like some people think this attitude is completely fine. Oh well. I guess I will move on and ''complain'' my way out then .

    Edit: Mod might as well close this thread. It's settled as people think the bad attitude towards others are fine, when I completely think it's not. Glad some think that this is wrong and not everyone. However feel free to close it mods.
    It isn't fine, but nothing you, I, or anyone else says will change them. So why let it get to you, which just feeds their negativity and causes harm to your own mental state in the process? Rhetorical question, there's no reason to let it get to you. Learn how to let such things roll off your back, but do report the truly heinous ones as there is a point where it goes too far and just moving on isn't correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    It isn't fine, but nothing you, I, or anyone else says will change them. .
    I have to agree to that, that's very true. Sadly, this rant is on this forum to make people how frustrating it can be, maybe I was just wrong to tell how I feel how certain players and yes some people on these forums actually say. Maybe it would actually put them in a mood where they would think, ''so what I'm doing is actually wrong?'' But I guess that's not gonna happen. But however, wish you good luck and have fun in the future content and the game !
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    Edit: Mod might as well close this thread. It's settled as people think the bad attitude towards others are fine, when I completely think it's not. Glad some think that this is wrong and not everyone. However feel free to close it mods.
    Where I disagree with you is on your definition of bad attitude. You seem to be calling 'low skill' an example of bad attitude.
    I consider bad attitude to be people who try ti micro-manage how I play my character, my rotation etc... people who put down others in chat, swear, etc...

    I don't see people who try things they are not up to the challenge of as bad attitude. I see it as people over-estimating what they can do.
    I do see people who make extreme negative judgements or assumptions about the motives of those 'over-achiever' players... as being the ones with the actual bad attitude.

    As someone else also noted in different words... if you want to avoid the risk of being grouped with people who are not as ready for something as they presumed they were, stick to pre-made groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    Where I disagree with you is on your definition of bad attitude. You seem to be calling 'low skill' an example of bad attitude.
    I consider bad attitude to be people who try ti micro-manage how I play my character, my rotation etc... people who put down others in chat, swear, etc...
    Harrasment comes in many forms, just not telling people harrasment, put down people in chat and so on.
    I'm not going to tell you how to play, I'm simply asking not to play like you werent there at all or barely paying attention to the screen. Why is it harrasment? Because you drag people as hostiles, pretty much force them to carry you on their back, so they can get whatever they want. Fair? No. Not gonna lie either, those players are those who usually talk bad in groups, because if things doesn't go their way, with their attitude of playing, they will simply say; Don't tell me how to play, don't tell me what to do.

    I was in expert, told this WHM stone 3 is better than stone 2. If he wished to aoe, holy has aoe and he said he knew that then told me straight off not to tell him how to play. C'mon we are in a lvl 60 dungeon, use the skill you get after 50 and not before 50?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    So what? Have it occured, like ever occured you, those people I talk about, trash talk a minor group of players in the game? It looks like some people think this attitude is completely fine. Oh well. I guess I will move on and ''complain'' my way out then .
    I could be wrong, but I feel like anyone who can't be bothered to put any effort into playing the actual game is probably not hanging out on the forums. The people you're complaining about are very likely not the people who are complaining about elitists. There are players who will ruin your good time at every level of this game, though in my experience they're not that common. If I run into a player doing something that drives me nuts, I ask them to stop, and if they don't, I typically just leave. I'd rather do something else for half an hour than get aggravated about a video game.

    One trend I've noticed recently is that (presumably new) players, often tanks, will not chat or even apparently read the chat. People in the party will notice that they're new and give them tips for the boss, which they utterly ignore. And like, that's fine, I don't need to have a super-optimal run to be happy, but when the tank eats a Lunar Cry twice in a row after we've told him several times how to avoid it (and presumably he can see everyone else, including the other new player, hiding), I kind of wonder why he's even playing the game. This isn't "striving to be the best" or improving or anything, this is literally understanding the gameplay at all.
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    Last edited by Talraen; 04-28-2017 at 11:03 PM.