Mogstation and New Content

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Yoshida and Team expects collectors to dish out another $790.84+ (since I still haven't bought everything on Mog Station) for minions, gear, hairstyles, mounts, housing items, emotes, orchestrion rolls that have never been obtainable by playing the game.

They don't expect anything. You choose to collect everything, which comes at additional costs. Bear in mind, it's incredibly unlikely Yoshida has control over cash shop decisions. That would be mandated by Square Enix, whose only concern is profit. Your expenditure decisions proves their current business model has been very effective. I mean, no offense, but think about this from a purely business perspective.

You have spent: $1300.83
Average sub only player: $311.76 (same 24 month span)

And you wonder why there's a cash shop, among other merchandise alternatives?

It's a game. And if it's a freaking feature in a game, then it is content! Guess what, raiding is optional content, too. Nothing in this game is forcing me to raid. How about we put that on the Mogstation?

I know how well that would go over, though. That's a double standard.

Gameplay and cosmetics are note even remotely comparable. You're building a massive strawman here.

[Naunet]

Gameplay and cosmetics are note even remotely comparable. You're building a massive strawman here.

Not a strawman at all. I haven't raided in this game in years. Raiding is 100% optional. Content is content, however, and one type of content should not be treated differently than the next. Cosmetics and aesthetic are literally THE reason I play this game. I get my raiding jollies in WildStar, which incidentally has a far better costume system than this one. And I can get all the store costumes without ever spending a dime of real life cash if I so choose...

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Not a strawman at all. I haven't raided in this game in years. Raiding is 100% optional. Content is content, however, and one type of content should not be treated differently than the next. Cosmetics and aesthetic are literally THE reason I play this game. I get my raiding jollies in WildStar, which incidentally has a far better costume system than this one. And I can get all the store costumes without ever spending a dime of real life cash if I so choose...

It is because you are comparing two radically different features and attempting to draw parallels. You may only care for glamour, however games exist for their gameplay. Without it, you have no game to play whereas the game remains functionally unchanged whether you play it wearing armour or walking around naked. Aesthetics in no way impact this, thus they are not comparable. As for Wildstar... considering it's dire financial state, it's not exactly a great example.

[Naunet]

It is because you are comparing two radically different features and attempting to draw parallels. You may only care for glamour, however games exist for their gameplay. Without it, you have no game to play whereas the game remains functionally unchanged whether you play it wearing armour or walking around naked. Aesthetics in no way impact this, thus they are not comparable. As for Wildstar... considering it's dire financial state, it's not exactly a great example.

Without appealing armor appearances, I see very little point in engaging in any combat gameplay. Or are you comfortable running around as a grey box?

Aesthetics impact gameplay. This is simply fact.

[LineageRazor]

Without appealing armor appearances, I see very little point in engaging in any combat gameplay. Or are you comfortable running around as a grey box?

Aesthetics impact gameplay. This is simply fact.

This is an MMO, not a dress-up simulator. The focus and primary reason to play this game is NOT to decorate your character, but to go on adventures. Dress-up options are offered as a secondary gameplay feature. This is why folks would be almost universally pissed off if "going on adventures" required paying extra money to the cash shop, but there is much more debate when it comes to cosmetics. You are correct that no one wants to run around as a "grey box", but the game presents an ENORMOUS number of options to enable you to avoid this. There are hundreds of potential glamours available! If this array of options is not enough, SE offers additional options, for a fee.

[Talraen]

Without appealing armor appearances, I see very little point in engaging in any combat gameplay. Or are you comfortable running around as a grey box?

Aesthetics impact gameplay. This is simply fact.

Aesthetics are about your gameplay, they don't affect anyone else. That's why it's acceptable to have them be an optional feature. Nothing anyone else can do is going to compel you to buy glamour items, the same is not true of gameplay advantages. They wouldn't truly be "optional."

[Lexia]

It is because you are comparing two radically different features and attempting to draw parallels. You may only care for glamour, however games exist for their gameplay. Without it, you have no game to play whereas the game remains functionally unchanged whether you play it wearing armour or walking around naked. Aesthetics in no way impact this, thus they are not comparable. As for Wildstar... considering it's dire financial state, it's not exactly a great example.

I think MMOs have more substance then just the gameplay. At least for me, sometimes I log in just to talk to FC/LS. I would not consider it a strong connection as I most likely would not talk to anyone outside the game/game forums, so for outside the game content it does provide the social aspect is counted as part of the reason I keep my sub going even during the down/slow period leading up to stormblood expansion.

[Kaethra]

Content is content, however, and one type of content should not be treated differently than the next.

It should be. Why? Because -I- want it to be. I want to be able to purchase cosmetics for my character. You on the other hand have no right to take away what I have or what I want. Take the hateful envy elsewhere.

[Oriens]

You choose to collect everything

I'm very aware of my choices and do not regret them. The point of this thread is that it's becoming more rampant. I've stated before, elsewhere, the preorder is cancelled and the sub is cancelled. Until I see content worth paying for they are not getting another cent from me for this game.