Mogstation and New Content

[Zojha]

We don't have jump potions yet, so I can't say anything on them. But retainers aren't available in the mog station.

You "do" realize the entire thing is "the mog station"? It says up on the top of the page, in big bolded letters >_>

[Aronys]

That argument can also be used for hairstyles, outfit outside dungeon gear and quest rewards, minions and mounts. One could say that the hairstyle that we start with in 2.0 is enough, that only the Chocobo mount is necessary and for armour, only the stuff that can be obtained from tomes and dungeons. What is or is not necessary depends on the player, we all value stuff differently. Uhm might like the emotes alot, so he/she values it differently then you and me.

One person can not label what is or not necessary for the whole community.

This has nothing to do with personal value. This is about someone saying that not having a certain emote is hindering their gameplay. These additional emotes can only enrich gameplay, add more to it, but not having them does not affect the basis of gameplay what so ever. The base is still there, and we already have a lot of extra to enrich it. These few add-ons only serve to further enrich it.

[Synrin]

It's extra storage space, except instead of selling it you like most MMO's, they rent it you.

It's the same with characters and the sub itself. If you pay the entry level one you get to have 1 character, if you pay for the standard, you get more characters. Not everyone needs more than 1 character, and not everyone needs extra retainers. It's that easy. It's just the player who has to figure out what they need and if they want to pay for it on a monthly basis. It's just like any other premium subscription. Take Spotify as an example. You can listen to music for free, but how you get to listen to it depends on whether you pay or not. Same thing, can't escape from that, and it is ridiculous to blame or call out on it a service that requires money to be up and running, just because they have a business model that offers different services that don't cater to everyone's financial abilities at this very moment.

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This has nothing to do with personal value. This is about someone saying that not having a certain emote is hindering their gameplay. These additional emotes can only enrich gameplay, add more to it, but not having them does not affect the basis of gameplay what so ever. The base is still there, and we already have a lot of extra to enrich it. These few add-ons only serve to further enrich it.

But that is exactly a personal value. They find other people being able to play dead hindering and they envy them if they cannot do it themselves. Wow what a shit game, right? That's how you get a salty player, just like when people flame BiS raider because he put time and effort in it :3

[Aronys]

You "do" realize the entire thing is "the mog station"? It says up on the top of the page, in big bolded letters >_>

And this discussion is mainly about optional items in said mog station. It is why the mog station is split into several tabs. Maybe I should have written that in the first place, but I kinda hoped that people would understand that in the first place. Otherwise, people would complain about having to pay for a name change and server transfer (nobody is complaining about that), and additional retainers fall into that category.

[Enur]

We should not be afriad of the mogstation as a concept. We should be afraid of the devs ceasing production of otherwise subscription funded content in order to pump out mogstation goodies.

When the art of an expansion is complete i can understand the art team sitting idle while the rest of the dev team is piecing it all together. Is it greedy with the current prices? Of course. Pricing is waaay too high imo.

[Aronys]

But that is exactly a personal value. They find other people being able to play dead hindering and they envy them if they cannot do it themselves. Wow what a shit game, right? That's how you get a salty player, just like when people flame BiS raider because he put time and effort in it :3

Well, that's a different thing then. The solution is easy. For the BiS stuff... git gud. For the mog station stuff... get a job. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Zojha]

And this discussion is mainly about optional items in said mog station.

The original argument was:

No, I'm correct. Retainers and jump potions aren't cosmetics. I never mentioned their effect on gameplay.
When people say the optional extras are just cosmetic they are 100% wrong.

to which you replied

We don't have jump potions yet, so I can't say anything on them. But retainers aren't available in the mog station. They are an extra service and are lumped into a separate section, alongside name change and server transfer. The mog station stuff so far is 100% cosmetics.

Frankly, you are wrong. That's all.

[Aronys]

Um... they said "optional extras". Optional, if you go to your mog station... is 100% cosmetics. Retainers fall under "Additional services". A category which also has... character renaming and server transfer.

Do I need to provide pictures?

[Enur]

Um... they said "optional extras". Optional, if you go to your mog station... is 100% cosmetics. Retainers fall under "Additional services". A category which also has... character renaming and server transfer.

Do I need to provide pictures?

You do know the entire webpage with all purchaseable things is called mogstation right? That includes name changes and retainers

[ErryK]

Shame on SE for being a business, right?