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    New content added straight to Mog station? They are very few.

    Mounts, NPC attires, minions and two emotes. The rest is mostly old event rewards. The regional items (Chines & Korean) should not be free for JP/NA/EU.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 04-27-2017 at 11:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    New content added straight to Mog station? They are very few.

    Mounts, NPC attires, minions and two emotes. The rest is mostly old event rewards. The regional items (Chines & Korean) should not be free for JP/NA/EU.
    That's what baffles me, so many people say they want the promotional items etc (that other people who were able to obtain them also cashed out for!) on Mogstation as it is a good platform for such things, but now the same Mogstation gets flamed for having a couple more dresses and emotes that can't be obtained in game. These few items you need money for.... And? You can still buy dyes on MB, you can still survive without the extra services like Fantasia, and you can most certainly participate in events so you won't have to buy the Chocobo barding a year after the event. What exactly is the problem? If you don't like it just ignore it.

    Edit: And f* me but this is exactly the same as people complaining about aetherytes ruining their immersion. Don't use them then dammit, take an airship.
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    Mi An
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    Please stop this.

    Everyone knows that emotes gives you a permanent damage buff, and minions will add to damage as well. Not to mention the Manderville, how many times that have improved your evasion rate to 100% ? I'm amazed it still is obtainable in game!!! I had "mandervilled" my Titan EX because tired of follow mechanics and avoid aoe.

    And, as last thing, what about all that clothing? +50% def buff each piece you use for glamour. Yes, cash shop is OP and gives you HUGE advantages against regular players. We must stop this insanity.

    Apart the jokes, I also had read in forum about someone unhappy about the Easter event mount being noisy. WTF? You got a nice free mount and you still have to complain about it noisy if you 'shoot' with that? Oh, man...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Actually, the Mogstation's prevalence is entirely in our control and pretending we have to bend over and let SE list whatever they please for sale on their is self-defeating.

    I mean really, we get cultural dances for the major cities through questlines and when the opportunity arises to introduce a far east dance from Doma - a region we will be visiting in Stormblood - does that too follow the pattern? No. Now it's straight to the cash shop.
    That isn't how additional content updates work. Whether it be vanity items or full blown DLC, they are designed exclusively to be sold. It isn't, "Sleipnir would be a drop from Odin if it weren't for the cash shop!" but "Sleipnir wouldn't exist at all." What ends up on the cash shop are things they know will entice people to purchase them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    That isn't how additional content updates work. Whether it be vanity items or full blown DLC, they are designed exclusively to be sold. It isn't, "Sleipnir would be a drop from Odin if it weren't for the cash shop!" but "Sleipnir wouldn't exist at all." What ends up on the cash shop are things they know will entice people to purchase them.
    Neither you nor they have proof that those items wouldn't existed. Also in case of the mount it existed before the cash shop was ever mentioned (so poke poke I can see the holes in argument already). Also recoloured magitek, minfillia gear I am sure that people have more examples.

    Also we can't know what these cash shops and exclusives take away from. They have said they are short employees or looking to increase staff. Do you people think that if the dev that make cash shop items would just not work? "Sorry Joe no cash shop item this month go collect unemployment." Unless I missed it they do not have a separate cash shop team.

    Maybe someone could ask "Do you have a separate cash shop team?" They say YES come back here tell people to shut up those employees weren't the reason all caster gear is mostly retreads between the two. They say NO you know that they intentionally are removing man hours from game development. At this point it seems like most people feel its a, no. But maybe they are wrong. Or maybe the third answer is a company values profits over customers United=a certain developer.

    To the pay to win argument. I never thought it was Pay to win, even with retainers making a million gil a week from quick ventures. But I recently watched a youtube video where they discuss pay to progress. The video comes down on the side helping progress is not pay to win. But they also discuss why it is pay to win. One of the points that stuck with me, is leveling a mountain that needs to be crossed.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 04-28-2017 at 09:42 AM.

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    To anyone arguing that having a subscription means there should not be a cash shop, do you want the subscription price to increase? Without a cash shop, Square Enix will be making less money. They'd defray that cost by either increasing subscription costs, or spending less money on the game. The cash shop is letting you save money by having people with no financial sense (e.g., me) pay your extra subscription costs for you. You're welcome. :P
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    Another 11 pages of this drivel.

    I'll make it short: SE uses the cash shop to make extra offerings on the side, DLC. They are not the first subscription-based MMO to do so, and won't be the last. It is up to you as a customer to put your money where your mouth is. If you think this practice is immoral, show it by hitting SE where it counts: Your subscription. It sounds as though that's what the OP is doing, and bully for them.

    Personally, I don't care about the Mogstation offerings. I don't need them, and I don't buy them. I don't believe that they reduce the quantity of glamour stuff we get in-game, by any degree - they are extra, on top of what we get in-game. As for the looming spectre of pay-to-win, I don't think we're there yet. If that ever changes, I, too, may leave the game. But I don't think it's likely to happen, and no, I don't consider retainers to be pay-to-win.
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    Omg this topic pops up like every day. There are several threads within the first few pages. Do we seriously need more text walls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    Omg this topic pops up like every day. There are several threads within the first few pages. Do we seriously need more text walls?
    Why do you care? Need more room on the front page for "Show your ______"or "I have an idea for limit breaks" threads?
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    My gosh people are really hostile here. There's nothing really new about the idea of Cash Shops.
    Every game has them and while yes, I agree more things should be in the game but there are some things I -will- buy from the station.
    And I don't mind doing so. I'm still waiting to get the big Moogle!
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