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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Compare the items in the Mog Station to the items in the game... ?

    Clearly there's more in the game than out of the game.
    It doesn't matter how few or many items are on Cash shop, the simple fact, that cash shop even exists in a game we pay monthly to play is an insult.
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    Does this also cover collector's editions? If it doesn't matter how few or many items are available for extra cash. Because you do get extra items by just paying a bit extra. Does that... also hinder people's gameplay? )))
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    So the fact that WoW does it too makes it ok?
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  4. 04-27-2017 09:54 PM
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    Well mogstation is only glamour based, even looking at that, most, i guess 90% + are available ingame, put past itens in there is a win-win situation, SE make them moneys and who havent the oportunity to play during the event have a chance to get it, the problem is some people havent grow up, i may be wrong but it seems those annoying kids that think they should be the only ones that have their toys, i played many mmorpgs in the last decade, sub and no sub, and comparing mogstation is one of the best ones, the only thing i dont like its the prices that are too high, otherwise you guys should look to the market (mmos) and see that cash shop is a valid and very present business model.
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    It all boils down to wanting to make the game better. On one side, you have the people who wish everything was in game by default and you didn't have to pay extra. On the other hand, you have people think this game should be supported by the Mogstation because if you buy the items for real money, you're helping an MMO advance better by supporting the company you love playing the game for. Every game these days has DLC that might be free and the having to pay extra to enjoy a game or it's cosmetics has been around since the very beginning of the new age of Video Games. Square Enix are hardly the first, nor will they be the last to do this. It's called economy and business. Do I agree that the prices for optional items should be there? Yes, because they're optional. Do I think some things in the Mogstation should be available through collective needs and items missed from previous events should be in the game? Yes, I do. It does not mean I want the Mogstation gone, however.
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    Yeah but... you know... feelings > facts.
    Can't beat those feelings.
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    You want more content, don't you? Oy vey! So ungrateful.

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    Last edited by Qojon; 04-27-2017 at 10:44 PM.

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    I'm still against cash shop but thats only because they aren't transparent with it at all. Yoshi said in the past that it would be used to fund the game more but is it really? We will never know unless they actually post some $$$ and what the $$$ was used on. We all know he's using some of the cash shop money to create more cash shop items cause that parts obvious. How and what is it being used on for the actual subscription content though and how much of it are they retaining as profit? Lets be honest here, they would keep some of it as a profit cause this is a business...

    The only thing I've bought from the cash shop is the playdead emote cause its fun to use. I've actually hated the fact that they started adding emotes to the cash shop cause now that means we might see less of them in subscription based content. Even the new emote isnt sub based.

    This whole thing is a giant gray area. On the one hand its totally optional content but at the same time it could have easily been put in the game as subscription stuff. The idea was to use the sales as more funding for the game but without transparency that just leaves everyone wondering if greed is sinking in...
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    Last edited by Mycow8me; 04-27-2017 at 11:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry0uSh1n View Post
    it makes me wonder does SE truly want my money?
    A while back the unofficial census estimated Sleipnir alone brought in nearly $700,000 USD in just under a year. Not to sound callous, but your individual sub means nothing to them when people spend to the tune of millions on overall mogstation purchases.

    The reality is, micro-transactions are a response to substantially growing production costs. Companies do not want to eat the sudden millions of dollars lost, thus they try offsetting those costs onto the customer. Were it not for cash shops, DLC and etc, game prices would skyrocket. Capcom's CEO flatout said he feels games shouldn't be cheaper than $150 and EA more eloquently agreed, citing the aforementioned cost of development being too high nowadays. What wound up being the compromise are micro-transactions, which I am okay with, personally. Why? Instead of being charged a significantly higher flat rate on a game I may not even like, I can opt into entirely optional content once I'm happy with the product. Does it suck we won't be able to obtain everything without opening our wallets? Yes, but it will not change. And it isn't unique to FFXIV. In fact, you'll have more trouble finding a game that doesn't have some form of add on.
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