Change "animation locks" (makes the game too slow)

[DaikiKiyoshi]

Yeah I've noticed the bane thing for sure. I have to wait for the dot icon to actually show up on the enemies status bar for bane to work. Also, for me Tetragrammaton is more "instant" than Benediction (instantly kill target) is. I don't have the best internet in the world though so I always just attributed it to lag.

Hopefully with the new server upgrade thingy this will all get better.

I do think that some things such as limit breaks should keep their animation locks. They are already a sort of "oh crap" get out of dodge button that we otherwise wouldn't have (healer lb3) so I think people should have to put more thought into using them at appropriate times to avoid death by animation lock.

[Canadane]

Benediction, as well as the tank immortality skills are very clearly intentionally delayed.

[dragonseth07]

Benediction, as well as the tank immortality skills are very clearly intentionally delayed.

I will grant you that, but everything else under the sun doesn't have to be.

There's no reason why all the abilities in this game have to have unclippable animations. All it does is keep you from using abilities exactly when you want to.

Let me use 5 buffs at once if I want to. Let me stack a bunch of oGCD's into one window. It's not the end of the world if people don't see the whole animation for a spell. Let my stuff hit when I hit the button instead of a second later and let me move on to the next button.

[Ama_Hamada]

I will grant you that, but everything else under the sun doesn't have to be.

There's no reason why all the abilities in this game have to have unclippable animations. All it does is keep you from using abilities exactly when you want to.

Let me use 5 buffs at once if I want to. Let me stack a bunch of oGCD's into one window. It's not the end of the world if people don't see the whole animation for a spell. Let my stuff hit when I hit the button instead of a second later and let me move on to the next button.

Why even grant that?
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Hallowed_Ground
"cast Instant "
Not "cast when the game feels like seeing that you used this ability and you have up to 2 seconds after using it to still die"

[Canadane]

I will grant you that, but everything else under the sun doesn't have to be.

There's no reason why all the abilities in this game have to have unclippable animations. All it does is keep you from using abilities exactly when you want to.

Let me use 5 buffs at once if I want to. Let me stack a bunch of oGCD's into one window. It's not the end of the world if people don't see the whole animation for a spell. Let my stuff hit when I hit the button instead of a second later and let me move on to the next button.

Yeah that's certainly annoying.
Though I do enjoy the idea of each skill having it's own animation. Back in 1.0 99% of them just had this strange half-squat animation. It's pretty nice now, very FF-esque. But it's a hard trade off.

[Serilda]

It's animation rather than a limitation; Lustrate casts much faster than Benediction but they both do the same thing (i.e. heal HP). It's certainly possible to have someone die to a late Lustrate or Tetragrammaton and have the skill go on cooldown, but it's a regular event for slower moves like Benediction, so much so that I tend to be surprised if I actually save anyone with it.

I would certainly not object to the affected skills getting tweaked like the Mudra inputs were.

The Bio thing is noticeable but manageable, I always assumed it was lag but I guess it could be waiting to register. I suppose it bothers me less as nobody ever died from me waiting a fraction of a second longer to Bane.

[Ama_Hamada]

It's animation rather than a limitation; Lustrate casts much faster than Benediction but they both do the same thing (i.e. heal HP). It's certainly possible to have someone die to a late Lustrate or Tetragrammaton and have the skill go on cooldown, but it's a regular event for slower moves like Benediction, so much so that I tend to be surprised if I actually save anyone with it.

I would certainly not object to the affected skills getting tweaked like the Mudra inputs were.

The Bio thing is noticeable but manageable, I always assumed it was lag but I guess it could be waiting to register. I suppose it bothers me less as nobody ever died from me waiting a fraction of a second longer to Bane.

You are right, and it is a high hindrance to PvP, because burst damage is too fast.

[Airget]

Yea. . calling it an animation lock is inaccurate, this is a latency issue. It relates to the Send Receive.

See when you Send out Bio, it's shows on your side that Bio is active but if you use Bane right after and send that as it receives the info on the Bane it still hasn't received/refreshed the info to acknowledge the Bio on the mob and thus doesn't AOE the Bio.

They could just change it where Bane comes with Bio on it, which could work since it would solve the issue of using both in rapid fire.

It wouldn't make Bio useless since it could still be used on single targets and Contagion and by itself, it's not like people would just throw bane out to only AOE Bio, so there is nothing lost if they just have it where Bio is a part of the Bane effect, maybe just have it where Bane is no long off global Cooldown and suffers the same cooldown as if you used Bio.

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So basically change Bane to have "Spreads Bio/Bio II/Miasma"

"If Bio is not present on target spreads Bio to all in AOE Radius" (If this occurs player is given a cooldown as if they had cast Bio)

[Ama_Hamada]

Yea. . calling it an animation lock is inaccurate, this is a latency issue. It relates to the Send Receive.

See when you Send out Bio, it's shows on your side that Bio is active but if you use Bane right after and send that as it receives the info on the Bane it still hasn't received/refreshed the info to acknowledge the Bio on the moband thus doesn't AOE the Bio.

They could just change it where Bane comes with Bio on it, which could work since it would solve the issue of using both in rapid fire.

It wouldn't make Bio useless since it could still be used on single targets and Contagion and by itself, it's not like people would just throw bane out to only AOE Bio, so there is nothing lost if they just have it where Bio is a part of the Bane effect, maybe just have it where Bane is no long off global Cooldown and suffers the same cooldown as if you used Bio.

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So basically change Bane to have "Spreads Bio/Bio II/Miasma"

"If Bio is not present on target spreads Bio to all in AOE Radius" (If this occurs player is given a cooldown as if they had cast Bio)

This makes no sense, why would latency make bio be slow and not bane? If both are slow latency wise, that means it will take a bit for the bane to work as well. But bane goes off before the game sees bio, it is a server issue/coding in this case. I was told in a different thread it is due to " animation locks" so I named this thread in that manner.

Whatever you call it, it should be changed, no reason to make the game so slow when it is fast pace. FFXI was not slow, so why is this one? This game is so slow with this issue, I can use spells and abilities go off on CD on some that that is dead already, ffxi did not DO THIS!

[ShinMetsu]

Yea. . calling it an animation lock is inaccurate, this is a latency issue. It relates to the Send Receive.

See when you Send out Bio, it's shows on your side that Bio is active but if you use Bane right after and send that as it receives the info on the Bane it still hasn't received/refreshed the info to acknowledge the Bio on the mob and thus doesn't AOE the Bio.

This makes no sense, why would latency make bio be slow and not bane? If both are slow latency wise, that means it will take a bit for the bane to work as well. But bane goes off before the game sees bio, it is a server issue/coding in this case. I was told in a different thread it is due to " animation locks" so I named this thread in that manner.

Whatever you call it, it should be changed, no reason to make the game so slow when it is fast pace.

Damn. Roasted by logic.