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[Dualgunner]

But that site does allow you to look someone up by name, regardless of their ranking. If you had a lot of time, or a good robot, you could easily organize the data in a list of the top X scores out of X--that is, everyone--and see in what percentile they fall for their job in a particular bit of content, therefore allowing public shaming.

Okay but to be clear, that's a fourth party on top of the third party you're talking about there. Someone *could* is all you have right now, and that is a lot of effort to go to to shame someone which tells me, person X in this actively wants to shame person Y, so they'll find any way to do it anyway.

PotD just says, "Here are the top 100 scores out of X participants."

You can't look up the DPS percentile for dungeons. AFAIK there is no recorded percentile list for Baelsar's Wall. ATM it's just Creator Savage that my rankings show up for. So if your dps isn't up to par in Creator Savage then that means you're doing Creator Savage, and at that point (I) actively want to be a better player for the team anyway.

In the context of parsing just your party or alliance, the parser gives a complete ranking top 8 of 8 or top 24 of 24, allowing you to look for a particular member's score and shame him for his performance. If it were comparable to PotD rankings, you would only see who ranked #1 (or perhaps 1-3 in an alliance), and you would have no information about the rest of the group.

Maybe this is where we differ: I like to assume the best of people where it seems you like to assume the worst.

If we're still talking about FFLogs which is the leaderboard I compared PotD's to then only people who are doing the current endgame raid content are in rankings at all. Not regular dungeons, not guildhests or FATEs or PotD even. Just (in 3.5x's case) Creator Savage. So of the playerbase, this is only the selective few that go in there that would even be up in the rankings.

In case it's not clear, I'm not saying "Let's do this." I'm only saying, "If we displayed parse results in a manner more simmilar to the Palace rankings, it would look more like this."

So you want FFLogs to only display the top 1 percentile of people who've cleared Savage, as opposed to just people who've cleared savage?

If people're going to bring existing tools into the discussion, let's not pretend they don't have every single feature someone would ever want for harassing people, and we absolutely should not want to make it easier for people to harass others.

In re: "If people are parsing to harass, report them!"

Status quo for people who want to parse: they parse or ask a friend to parse.
If parsers were allowed: they would parse or ask a friend to parse.

Status quo for people who don't want to be harassed: If someone parses to harass, and you report them, they are clearly in violation.
If parsers were allowed: If someone parses to harass, you would have to argue your case.

Things wouldn't change for people who want to parse, and things would only become more of a hastle for the victims of harassment and bullying.

So what you're admitting to, is you like the guilty until never proven innocent defense right now?

Also I doubt that it would be that much of a hassle, since the mods would still probably be biased against parser users.