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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    They're making it pretty clear each time the topic gets brought up that they dont want it and wont introduce it. At this point you're not better than a child asking if you can finally have a dog after your parents said "No, because daddy is allergic" for the 100th time.

    They repeat their reasons why each time they get asked about it - and remebering the last FanFest and them answering this question again Yoshi seemed to get annoyed by it. And I can totally see why... This isnt "If we cry loud enough, they'll consider it" - this is "No. Wont happen."
    They've changed their mind on things in the past due to player persistence, its not really a period end of story. More of an incredibly unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitches1974 View Post
    Let me go find the page where it says parsers are against ToS.

    "we would like to remind players that using third-party programs, parsers, or other tools to conduct actions players would not normally be able to do in the game is a violation of the Terms of Service, and will be dealt with strict disciplinary action."

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    Actually, parsers aren't against ToS. The link you provided isn't the ToS. This is: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en

    Also OP, everyone knows the stance Yoshi and crew has on parsers, so I don't know why these threads keep popping up. At best I'd say they tweak the existing Idyllshire Dummy tests to include actual numbers. That in itself is a longshot though.
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    Last edited by dotsforlife; 04-26-2017 at 01:50 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotsforlife View Post
    Actually, parsers aren't against ToS. The link you provided isn't the ToS. This is: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en

    Also, everyone knows the stance Yoshi and crew has on parsers, so I don't know why these threads keep popping up.
    An official notice, by SE, that says it's against ToS is the same thing.

    Yes, I know Yoshi's stance. Don't let anyone know you run a parser.

    EDIT: As for specifics, it most likely be under this:

    3. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES
    In addition to the License Limitations, there are other activities that you are forbidden from doing in connection with the Game ("Prohibited Activities"). In its discretion, Square Enix may use a variety of methods to deal with violations of this User Agreement and the Prohibited Activities, including, but not limited to, any of the following:

    3.2 Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players ( I.E. using a parser to tell someone their dps is low )
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    Last edited by Stitches1974; 04-26-2017 at 01:55 AM.

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    Here's what I don't get. If the responses to questions like this are always the same, and they're sick of answering them, why don't the people who pick which questions get asked at live letters/fanfest just go "Oh. Parser question." Then throw it over their shoulder and pick a new one?

    Don't get me wrong, I'd like a parser too. But if the team are tired of answering these questions, why don't they just not answer them?
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    Which will happen first?

    1 - addon support
    2 - open world Ifrit
    3 - new egis

    Place your bets
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azzie View Post
    Here's what I don't get. If the responses to questions like this are always the same, and they're sick of answering them, why don't the people who pick which questions get asked at live letters/fanfest just go "Oh. Parser question." Then throw it over their shoulder and pick a new one?

    Don't get me wrong, I'd like a parser too. But if the team are tired of answering these questions, why don't they just not answer them?
    Because it's a recurring request from the players dedicated enough to go to things like FanFest. They know that there is a discord between their wants and those of the hardcore playerbase, and discounting it out of hand will make them go to other games faster.
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    I remember Yoshi-P literally tried to walk out of a Q&A when someone asked if a meter could be included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LystAP View Post
    I remember Yoshi-P literally tried to walk out of a Q&A when someone asked if a meter could be included.
    If you're talking about the Q&A during Fanfest in Frankfurt, they said they didn't want to add a parser because it would cause more tension within the community. The problem with the answer is it was given around the time Zurvan EX (skip soar) and Diadem 2.0 (AFKing before duty completion with no vote kick option and EM able to go to crap with one player's actions) were released.

    They said if they made it personal only, people would just ask for you to tell them your numbers, and the meter would be reverse-engineered to yield numbers for everyone. You can already ask for numbers with SSS and any tricks that told you other players' numbers would only be available on PC, where everyone already parses.

    They could simply add a personal parser and keep the rules for parsing they have in place now: No posting or commenting on the numbers of others, even if they lie when asked to give them.

    A damage meter will eventually be added, it's just a matter of when.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitches1974 View Post
    3.2 Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players ( I.E. using a parser to tell someone their dps is low )
    But the existence of a parser does not automatically imply this.
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    His response was a very clear, in-English "NO."

    He then explained that while they could do it, and even if they made it so it only personally showed your numbers to you, it would only be a matter of time before players reverse engineer it (a TOS violation) and start misusing it.

    It might not seem like it at times, but he and the devs know EXACTLY who they're dealing with.

    As for the OP, if you're THAT concerned about your performance, learn the basics first, consult a player who's well known for playing that job well, practice and perfect your rotation and skill usage/timing, and you won't have anything to worry about.
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