New Mogstation items

[Heybunny]

Nothing account wide, again. SE, I am disappoint. It's just pure greed.

[Istaru]

Nothing account wide, again. SE, I am disappoint. It's just pure greed.

Not directed at you.

So is demanding that exclusive items are made available again. I guess one begets the other.

[Zojha]

I guess one begets the other.

Well, the entire point of making something that can be mass produced at no cost exclusive is to appeal to the greed and maliciousness of people who value other people not having something they do.

What do you expect to come out of that premise? >_>

[Jandor]

Well, the entire point of making something that can be mass produced at no cost exclusive is to appeal to the greed and maliciousness of people who value other people not having something they do.

What do you expect to come out of that premise? >_>

I think the value of the legacy stuff for most people would come from the events they were tied to. It isn't that people explicitly want to deny it to others, but by making it available again to players now they lose their links to past events and therefore to what makes them special.

Like, a legacy tattoo struggles to be a memento of a memorable portion of the games history if it's also a £5 cash shop vanity item.

[Istaru]

Well, the entire point of making something that can be mass produced at no cost exclusive is to appeal to the greed and maliciousness of people who value other people not having something they do.

What do you expect to come out of that premise? >_>

Maliciousness? Seriously?

SE is the one that says when something is to be limited time only or exclusive in some fashion when they list the item for sale.

If you don't think that statement has an effect on the purchases that people make, you really need to rethink how you see this.

I have not seen anyone here try to influence SE to say "Hey, SE, only make 200 of this item and make sure I am one of them. Kthxbai."

SE decides that without our maliciousness. They are an enticement. SE knows that we want minions and such, so they use that knowledge to sweeten items they want to sell. If they state "This is first run copies only", then that is what they are.

Preorders help them order in larger amounts as they gauge interest in the item. Which can lead them to the decision to make a larger order, lowering their costs and maximizing their profits. Otherwise people may decide "Nah bruh, I'll wait for a sale and buy it then." Which could lower their profits per item, which they don't want.

Do I get my panties in a bunch when I see another person with the Cait Sith Minion? Nope. Do I turn into an Irrational lunatic seeing the Dalamud Minion I don't have because I know they are only using it to rub my face in poop about how I don't have it? Nope, good for them. They did what SE required them to do for the item, and I didn't. Plain and simple as that. Do I race to the forums and demand that SE release every single item ever made so I can have these items too? Nope. I accept the exclusivity of the item and I move on.

Do I secretly plot of ways to torment and torture newer players with the exclusive items that I have in my secret abode while laughing maniacally? Too much effort. Don't care to.

[Jandor]

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Is there supposed to be a gif or something? I don't see it.

Edit: never mind. You were editing it in, kind of obviously in hindsight.

[Zojha]

Maliciousness? Seriously?

Yes, maliciousness.

A person who wants a good to be exclusive or a bad to be inclusive is malicious. Full stop. What good or bad in particular that is only changes the degree, not the principle. Both things, exclusivity of goods and inclusivity of bads, are one and the same: You are wishing a lower utility unto others. If you do that for your own selfish benefit, you are greedy. If you do that for the heck of it, you are just plain an arse.

Whether you in particular want a good or bad to be inclusive or exclusive is your own decision. But I can tell you that the reason companies bother to artificially make goods exclusive is because there are people who want it to be. Which are malicious people, as stated above.

[Istaru]

Yes, maliciousness.

A person who wants a good to be exclusive or a bad to be inclusive is malicious. Full stop. What good or bad in particular that is only changes the degree, not the principle. Both things, exclusivity of goods and inclusivity of bads, are one and the same: You are wishing a lower utility unto others. If you do that for your own selfish benefit, you are greedy. If you do that for the heck of it, you are just plain an arse.

Who here demanded that SE release items and said that they must be exclusive prior to their announcement?

NOBODY!!!

SE stated they would be available a certain way and be limited. Stop placing whatever garbage you are spewing on the players that bought those items and fulfilled their requirements as set by SE. Full stop.

Whether you in particular want a good or bad to be inclusive or exclusive is your own decision. But I can tell you that the reason companies bother to artificially make goods exclusive is because there are people who want it to be. Which are malicious people, as stated above.

Bull hockey. Don't give me that nonsense. SE made them exclusive just like every company does for pre-orders, just like they do for console single player games where nobody will ever see what you got. It is an enticement, if you give me money today, I'll give you something extra when the game is released. Single player offline only games do the same thing. Who are those people oppressing with their exclusive items?

You want to go all SJW? Fine, do it at SE and get them to stop adding exclusive things to merchandise prior to its announcement. After the fact is too late.