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  1. #91
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    I regret spending so much to attend the first fanfest. It's nice to know I can get those exclusives for cheap if I wait a couple years. I don't have to attend or buy the 2018 fanfest streams now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xieveral View Post
    I regret spending so much to attend the first fanfest. It's nice to know I can get those exclusives for cheap if I wait a couple years. I don't have to attend or buy the 2018 fanfest streams now
    We'll see, only time will tell! Unlike the 2014 FanFest items which were not exactly spelled out, the 2016 Fanfest items are specifically stated to be "Exclusive" in fine print.

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    Last edited by NarikoStar; 04-26-2017 at 10:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarikoStar View Post
    We'll see, only time will tell! Unlike the 2014 FanFest items which were not exactly spelled out, the 2016 Fanfest items are specifically stated to be "Exclusive" in fine print.

    All the same, I'm not keen to jump on the next fanfest items right away. I'm willing to take the gamble and wait to see what happens with future exclusives/event items/whatever y'all want to call them. As time passes, I don't feel like I need them to enjoy the game.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by NarikoStar View Post
    We'll see, only time will tell! Unlike the 2014 FanFest items which were not exactly spelled out, the 2016 Fanfest items are specifically stated to be "Exclusive" in fine print.

    Well the FFX yuna outfit is put together pretty crappy (body and legs once piece) and never been much for minions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    I agree.

    Sadly, I think the 3.5 almost 4 years of "GIVE ME EVERYTHING!!!" demands are starting to win.

    It will be a sad day indeed when SE fully gives in, which I fear may be more of a possibility after this.
    I think rather than SE giving in to the fan demand, it's more of this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul View Post
    Because making more money is priority.
    But honestly speaking, between the releasing of the once-exclusive kupo suit and another USD $7 emote, I'm kinda expecting more salt on the forums. Now I regret getting plain popcorn

    /sarcasm
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by NarikoStar View Post
    I'm still strongly on the side of the Moogle Attire should have had a pom color change similarity to the Moogle Cap receiving the pom change. Just like you pointed out it seems extremely odd until you go and read the fine print.
    I am assuming it ultimately comes down to legal recourse of why certain items are updated to the Mog Station.

    2014 Moogle Attire Statement:

    *Does NOT specifically state "exclusive" other than a line leading many players to interpret meaning to be exclusive.

    2014 ARR Pre-Order Bonus Items Statement:

    *Stated "Limited" as well as many vendors (gamestop, bestbuy, amazon) used this as a sell point as Exclusive PreOrder bonuses.

    2016 Fanfest Vegas Stream Statement:

    *It specifically does state "exclusive" on the FF-X items- At least for the Minions. I guess the attire could be up in the air but it does use "items" being plural at the top may mean otherwise. I'd be curious to see if these reappear in 2 years since the fine print actually states "exclusive" this time around.


    Going by the above's fine print technically I could see why the Moogle Attire was added, (I don't agree with this because of the way this item was talked up and hyped up again by staff during during the actual 2014 Fanfest event at the Rio).

    I'm almost certain we saw the color change on the Moogle Cap specifically because there could be potential legal actions taken against 3rd party vendors who ultimately used the Caitsith Minion and the Moogle Cap as "exclusive" selling points for consumers to put in a preorder bonus with them. (Someone who bought the game could technically go back to the store that claimed these items were exclusive at the time and receive a refund for the game/preorder. Ultimately the Vendor would be at fault and could of course contact SE but would probably open a whole other can of worms to be dealt with legally.

    It seemed like there was a quite a lot of requests at least on the NA side for the Moogle Cap item though regardless- I get it people start the game later want access to cute items. I'm sure their workaround was the pom reskin so those who received the Bonus Pre Early Limited items could keep their originality of the item.

    Because of this, certain items that were advertised as such (or similar to the Moogle Cap / Caitsith Minion) which probably include any Game Collector item that stores advertise, (Behemoth Mount, Legacy Chocobo, Onion Helm, Garlean Goggles, Asuran Armbands) probably will only make their way into the Mog Station as a re skin- which I think for the most part people would be accepting of.

    Who really knows though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ this is my going theory at least.
    Nice research lol a like just for all the effort mate. I would like to see SE become abundantly clear on the future for all items. With maybe even an icon system or some sort of "USDA" "ORGANIC" sort of thing for exclusive, limited release, exclusive delayed release (like only this way, for a short time), and such. So we can know which items are not meant to be available again, and which items you can readily and fairly ask SE to bring back. Icons not really necessary but at minimum they become clear with the word exclusive and they list each item out that is exclusive when they do use it (so you know when the word is not there, that it means it is /not/ exclusive).

    This way there is no misunderstanding and SE can be held accountable accordingly, because I do believe exclusive means exclusive. That when they haven't said it then its just player assumption (ass u me lol), but I do value clarity and believe players should be able to know what to expect.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 04-26-2017 at 01:06 PM.

  7. #97
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    Exclusivity is an anti-consumer, cancerous practice that is slowly killing the industry. It serves nothing but negatives such as elitism and greed, fostering an environment of toxicity and animosity between the haves and have nots. The one, and only, exception to this is very specific and extraordinary forms of exclusivity that serve an actual purpose. Legacy accounts and the perks they have are an example of this. Legacy players suffered through 1.0, helping pave the way for 2.0 and beyond to even exist, and they are deserving of the special thanks that they get with things such as their Chocobo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    Exclusivity is an anti-consumer, cancerous practice that is slowly killing the industry. It serves nothing but negatives such as elitism and greed, fostering an environment of toxicity and animosity between the haves and have nots. The one, and only, exception to this is very specific and extraordinary forms of exclusivity that serve an actual purpose. Legacy accounts and the perks they have are an example of this. Legacy players suffered through 1.0, helping pave the way for 2.0 and beyond to even exist, and they are deserving of the special thanks that they get with things such as their Chocobo.
    I'm sure it was more "We can't let the reputation of FF suffer like this" that paved the way for 2.0. But yes they should remain exlusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    Exclusivity is an anti-consumer, cancerous practice that is slowly killing the industry.
    I disagree, I could maybe see the point if it was like a super rare item with very limited means to get it. But if talking like pre-order bonus or buy a stream and get certain item then I don't see anything wrong with it. I also don't get why you think it slowly killing the industry as it not exactly a new practice and been going on for quite a while. Just guess some people in life mainly the newer coming of age people (there older people with the mindset also) that were never taught or learned that can't have everything in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NarikoStar View Post
    We'll see, only time will tell! Unlike the 2014 FanFest items which were not exactly spelled out, the 2016 Fanfest items are specifically stated to be "Exclusive" in fine print.

    Actually , the 2014 Fan Fest items were spelled out to be exclusive as well. Exclusive to those that attended Fan Fest or bought the streams. Not to be available to everyone. That is not exclusive. I can tell you I won't be spending money to attend the next Fan Fest. 2014 and 2016 were enough after this (and the downgrade in the last one as well).

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    Last edited by Seraphyna; 04-27-2017 at 02:05 AM.

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