Coils of Bahamut... and its inconsistent challenge level.

[Silverquick]

Silverquick, you're wrong. It's an endgame raid that is still done, unsynced, every week for Khloe stickers, glamor, and some people do it for fun, challenge, and getting other peoples' bonuses.

And this is why I keep looking at you guys like you're lost in some other reality...

50th level is not "End Game" content anymore...

That would be level 60th... 50th level is irrelevent at this point...

And Bahamet is sitting empty... with no one in the queues anymore... so its even more irrelevent or in need of either an upgrade... or downgrade... one of the two.

[HyoMinPark]

I waited in queue for hours to do it at level 50, no one did

As others have stated, back when Coil was first added to Duty Finder, the queues were just as dead then. That's not anything new. People either entered it with a static, or via parties they formed with help of the Party Finder. I suggest you give that a try sometime.

it broke because the artificial insta-kill mechanics can't kill you at that level so it locks up the entire instance.

That sounds more like a technical bug, since there's been no word of such happening before, and no one has tried to replicate your experience, so you can't say that it's a fault of the instance and it's "instant kill mechanics not working." Therefore, you should have submitted a bug report and moved on. That is not a fault of the content itself.

So the entire premise of this thread is to update it to current levels/gear... aka modern day FFXIV... or just get rid of the insta death mechanics and make it normal level 50 content so it doesn't do that anymore

In between later asking for nerfs because now the content is "irrelevant" and "unimportant" for "everybody" in this game. And also from telling those that disagreed with you that we were "so out of touch with reality" and "don't even play this game seriously anymore" and "haven't made it past level 50 yet."

Its just an empty dungeon with empty queues, and holds no relevence anymore at this stage of the game.

It's a raid..... Dungeons are not 8-man; they're 4-man..... Queues were already empty before....... And if it is so irrelevant, then why are you still here?..... And why were you running content "with no relevance" in the first place?.....

[Kuroneko_Jutah]

This thread should just die off already, the argument has been circular for pages upon pages now.

And OP, you really do deserve a pat on the back for being the most annoying person on the forum all week. Thank you for overusing ellipses (that's when you put ... on the end of your sentences, fyi), ignoring literally any point counter to your own whatsoever, and having the most piss poor reading comprehension of anyone I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with, online or off.

[Vanitas]

Either OP truly does not grasp how mmos work or is in fact the greatest troll these forums have ever seen keeping this thread going 41+ pages. /think

[HyoMinPark]

This thread should just die off already, the argument has been circular for pages upon pages now.

And OP, you really do deserve a pat on the back for being the most annoying person on the forum all week. Thank you for overusing ellipses (that's when you put ... on the end of your sentences, fyi), ignoring literally any point counter to your own whatsoever, and having the most piss poor reading comprehension of anyone I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with, online or off.

Either OP truly does not grasp how mmos work or is in fact the greatest troll these forums have ever seen keeping this thread going 41+ pages. /think

To be fair, only half of the 41 pages were people debating with the OP. The other half were people debating with another poster who is on-par with the OP.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

No actually it quite literally broke.... it at level 60 unsynced...

Obviously since you didn't read the beginning of the thread... I waited in queue for hours to do it at level 50, no one did, so I grabbed some FC members and attempted it unsynced for story purposes... and boom... it broke because the artificial insta-kill mechanics can't kill you at that level so it locks up the entire instance.

So the entire premise of this thread is to update it to current levels/gear... aka modern day FFXIV... or just get rid of the insta death mechanics and make it normal level 50 content so it doesn't do that anymore

Its just an empty dungeon with empty queues, and holds no relevence anymore at this stage of the game.

And you haven't read anything we've explained here, instead spouting tripe about "being out of touch" and "uber" this, "L33T" that.

So listen for a change:

The Cube, Sphere, and Egg need to be kept separate. Tanks will tank the Cube and Sphere, the Egg freely moves around the room counterclockwise, forcing tanks to move around the room and keep a distance from it. Cube's weaker to magic, Sphere to physical, and the Cube has less HP. Both need to die at roughly the same time, or the remaining one will quickly move to merge with the egg, regaining HP and taking on the Egg's properties, and gaining a massive defense buff besides. The Egg can only be damaged in melee range, regardless if you're ranged or not.

So how do you handle this at 60? The same way you did at 50, but being more careful about damage: Weaken both, but focus on downing the Sphere first, then the Cube before it can reach the Egg. Once they're down, EVERYONE gets in melee range to attack the Egg. Whoever gets the Thunder debuff steps away from the party for a moment so as not to paralyze anyone with the aoe.

Updating it to "modern day FFXIV" only means that the entire add phase is once again a DPS race that you can't overgear/overpower, and doesn't solve the problem of needing to know how to properly execute the mechanics. It actually would reinforce that. Getting rid of the instant kill would actually break the instance far worse, as you'd simply be stuck with an overbuffed add (that CAN still be killed unsynced, just with more effort), and it goes away when the boss phase transitions anyways. Nothing was bugged, nothing would've been locked up, and at the worst, you were free to leave the instance and reenter besides. Or simply step into the field around the boss during that phase which will kill you no matter how much HP you have.

It's been said that unsycing something doesn't excuse you from performing mechanics. You can skip them due to high damage, but where things were designed to punish failing them, in a RAID, they still do. A large reason people don't run this is either they don't need to, don't want to, or BECAUSE they can't just plow through it, they refuse to. This is the second time I've explained this, and it will be the last. If you feel I'm "out of touch" after this much of an explanation, feel free to look up a video. They'll say the same thing.

[Kuroneko_Jutah]

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I don't think OP knows or understands the distinction between a dungeon and a raid. I don't even think he's capable of looking at anything from a different point of view, else he'd have heeded the pages upon pages of replies and feedback by now.

[Dualgunner]

And this is why I keep looking at you guys like you're lost in some other reality...

Yeah that's what happens when you've separated yourself from reality. The rest of the world must be crazy because there's no way you are.

50th level is not "End Game" content anymore...

That would be level 60th... 50th level is irrelevent at this point...

Then don't do it. Simple as that. /thread

And Bahamet is sitting empty... with no one in the queues anymore...

Nobody ever...EVER...went into the DF even back in the day expecting positive results in Coils. Everybody who was decent enough to pass T5 knew that, so the queues past Binding Coil were DOA. So it makes sense nobody is queueing for them now, especially because unsynch is also undersized party, which means there is no Unsynch DF. You go queue for DF, you queue synched. Make a PF if you wanna do Coil, lots of people still do it.

so its even more irrelevent or in need of either an upgrade... or downgrade... one of the two.

"Mommy mommy I wanna do the raid but its too hard...i-it's not like I really wanna do it, I mean NOBODY wants to do it cuz it's old... it's just stupid and shouldn't be so hard!"

[Vidu]

If you feel I'm "out of touch" after this much of an explanation, feel free to look up a video. They'll say the same thing.

But cant you see that you are completly out of touch because you know the mechanics to not revelant content? And are able to execute them? That thats stuff you shouldnt and cant possibly know when you're past level 50?
That doing mechanics in any content besides the most recent raids is just an abomination and an anomaly? Because you're totally not handling mechanics in the old level 50 raids or in any trial and dungeon in the game...

And why am I back here... I just picked up Majoras Mask (old, irrelevant game that no one plays anymore) again to get away from this. I'll have to ask my therapist if we can figure out what happend in my life that I hate myself this much.

[Dualgunner]

And why am I back here... I just picked up Majoras Mask (old, irrelevant game that no one plays anymore) again to get away from this. I'll have to ask my therapist if we can figure out what happend in my life that I hate myself this much.

Found your problem. You keep playing the Song of Time instead of just letting the moon impact with the planet and ending all of our misery.