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    Istaru's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    M'telihgo Feilyon
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    I don't know why I hate myself this much...

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    I just recently tried to help a fc mate do a2s because I had only done a1s and a4s and would like to get as much alex done sync while I can but the thing is nobody joined Like I mention before.
    Funny you mention A2S... I actually hosted a PF for that a few weeks ago to get a glamour item. It took multiple tries to get the 2 people we needed, but with some patience, the party filled on our 2nd or 3rd attempt after like 30 minutes.

    But patience seems to be very lacking. You can get people for any content. The only thing is that it may take multiple tries and take time. It won't be start to finish in 10 minutes.

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    When people come to these forums and say that people dont do this content why dont people listen , just because your friends may be cool about doing stuff many other people arent if you are reaching out to the whole player base as a whole via party finder. There are rules and balances to things just like its a meta in raids like all of this is stuff that the community makes and what they want for the most part to take place in the game happens. Whether that be no nubs in your parties, kicking people for under performing all of that is from a wave of what some players think things should go and others just follow the lead.
    You think that people who are able to farm something for what they want, shouldn't do that, they should teach/carry other people so they get what they want instead?

    You're upset that people who grossly underperform are kicked from farm parties??? When I'm on a DPS job, worthless, I know, but bear with me please, I am active doing things > 90% of the fight, including the time we are waiting on phase changes. If there is someone who is active only 30% of the time, we should carry them? I'll tell you right now, if everyone performed like that, we would never clear it much less farm it.



    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    I remember I did dun scathe with a fc member was her first time , she died alot the party kicked her despite it not really effecting how the raid was going I said its her first time chill out I get kicked out right after for speakin up for a friend. See thats the kind of nonsense that goes on in this game, and those are the kinda people you have to deal with to do certain content sometimes its just maybe better to get your clear and be fine simply because when people think they are good being an ****hole tends to go with it. Id rather stand up for the little players that just want a chance because I know many that the reason they dont do content is because of egotistic players.
    Did you just seriously call us a bunch of aholes? For the most part we have been fairly cordial towards you while you incessantly tell us that we're elitists and more. Now that title too?

    If she died a lot, she did affect the raid. She contributed less damage than she should have and it took MP to raise her which further reduces the total damage output from the group.

    With that being said, I don't kick new players who mess up easy content like Alexander normal and Dun Scaith. They need to learn the content and video guides don't work for everyone.

    A Primal or Savage farm? I'll kick in a moment if it's a farm party.

    Do you understand why? Silly me, I already know the answer.

    Expectations. If the party description says it is a farm party there are expectations that come with that. Things like you know the fight and can handle the mechanics and you can perform your job well enough for the entire group to clear the content in a reasonable fashion.

    If you can't, won't, don't do those things, you are being very rude to the people you are playing with. And to be quite honest, selfish. The very thing you accuse them of being.

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    So its hard for me to agree with those type of players because of their attitudes.
    None of us responding to your ramblings have said to kick new people so don't place that label on us. Thank you very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    So thats why its easy to agree with op on this post the players that are commenting im sure did coil when it was relevant well its like they have had all this time to do it.
    Anyone who has been here any significant length of time has had the chance to do coil. I'm not buying this half baked defense either.

    It's easy for you to agree with the OP since their view aligns with yours.

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    So why shouldn't other people share that experience as well it is just unsync content at what point does it no longer matter anymore. Its not the content its the people, its always the people until that changes in the game it will always be a wedge, thats why I have been a get a clear move on to the next player sometimes its better than dealing with rude vile people.
    Have you not read and understood anything that we have been saying??? I don't know why I even typed that. I already know the answer.

    None of us that are trying to talk sensibly to you have said that people shouldn't share the experiences we've had.

    WE ACTUALLY WANT THEM TO SHARE THE SAME EXPERIENCES WE'VE HAD!!!

    Without the mechanics or any chance of failure you cannot have the experiences we've had. I am going to separate and repeat that, it's important.

    Without the mechanics or any chance of failure you cannot have the experiences we've had.

    Please, stop reading for a moment and let that sink in. I know you won't, but a girl can try, right?

    Our memories of our experiences are of our failures to beat the content and the first time we overcame those challenges and finally triumphed.

    Anecdotal experience:

    I clearly remember my A5S clear. Why?

    The MT and I used to tease each other mercilessly, and he would kill me on purpose if the run was a failure and we needed to wipe and start over. Our first clear was ugly. Only 2 people were alive when we cleared it. The MT and I. That was a very long time ago. I'm still friends with that group as their raid crafter and backup healer. Whenever I join them on Discord, everyone remembers that moment.

    None of us remember or talk about the clears after that.

    Do you know why success and victory feel so awesome?

    It is because of the frustration, the tears, the anger that came before that. All those other emotions turn into euphoria and joy when the challenge has been mastered.

    Without the spectre of defeat, victory is hollow and meaningless.

    Despite how you misrepresent us, I want everyone, even you, to have a taste of that.
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    Last edited by Istaru; 04-28-2017 at 04:41 AM.