Coils of Bahamut... and its inconsistent challenge level.

[Dualgunner]

A whole lot of words that can be summed up as "People who have cleared are the bourgeoisie and the proletariat uncleared must rise!"

So you have nothing of value to add but "Noobs are weaksauce and need the vets to hold their hands through everything or have all difficulty curve steamrolled into a flat line."

[Vidu]

So you have nothing of value to add but "Noobs are weaksauce and need the vets to hold their hands through everything or have all difficulty curve steamrolled into a flat line."

That was basically their stance on EX-primals aswell already, yes - seperating experience people who want to farm and people who want to learn is bad in their book because those who want to learn will never be able to clear this way (since those who are experienced arent willing to help them). Basically assuming that anyone who (still) wants to clear EX-primals is totally unable to do that without having someone who knows the content well to hold their hand. As I said countless times on this specific matter again: Its a disrespectful and patronising towards them and unfair towards any vet/mentor/person who is willing to help to make those general assumption that new people arent able to clear content because they're to stupid on their own and everyone else is to egositic to help them when neither of those is true.

Ooh. More things to respond to.
Edit / massive post incoming.
I'll attempt to be brief.

Please dont be brief ;_; If we need massive textwalls, can we at least have them well written, thought through and structured properly?

[HyoMinPark]

Please dont be brief ;_; If we need massive textwalls, can we at least have them well written, thought through and structured properly?

Fear not, Vidu, for I was not brief at all!

Le shortcut to my novella of a post; clicky the blue arrow <3

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I missed these points, but Istaru basically took the words right out of my mouth, so. :>

[Vidu]

Fear not, Vidu, for I was not brief at all!

Thank you - I am truely amazed by your patience to dissect their comment so well - I cant bring myself to carefully read every sentence by them anymore, I'll admit that much >.<
So, than the twelve for people like you, who are doing it! /bow

And even though I cant be bothered to quote them now, I'd like to point something out: bswpaytons idea or experience that unsyched content is always faceroll might be because they only pick the content that is indeed faceroll and generalise based on that. They have admitted that they never did Coil, as in: the content that doesnt get faceroll easy, so they're basing their experience/opinion on a lack of facts. Something pretty dangerous and short-sighted to do. They're picking the easiest EX-primals to do unsyched (and even those still require mechanics and a minium of attention, as they're even willing to admit) and then draw conclusions from those without having complete data. Maybe its because of my studies at uni or just because I have common sense, but that way of judgment is seriously flawed.


Last thing I'd like to add: I'm a bit sad right now that I dont share data-centers with any of you guys or I would have totally voted for some coil-runs - sychned or unsyched, with new people to get them through and let them learn or not, I wouldnt have cared. Its still awesome content and awesome fights - my friend just went on about how much he loves T9 the other night for 10 minutes - and I always like to re-visit them. I was so, so happy to see that Khloe wants to hear about T13 once in a while, giving me even more of a reason to mobilize my friends and make them do this content with me again :')