Coils of Bahamut... and its inconsistent challenge level.

[Settiesama]

That IS the point my friend... I DID... do the mechanics... until we got to the Final Coil turn two and the it broke the instance because it couldn't kill us at level 60.

I've actually given up trying to give reasonable responses, he ignores them anyway.

[Vidu]

No it quite literally broke it, and stranded us there.

Where you able to reproduce the error?

Because right now I'd heavly assume that its a technical error, that would need technical looking into - something that needs to be fixed, so the content can once again work as intended.
I did T11 a few weeks ago (we didnt cleared it because people didnt know mechanics and after telling one person to stand out of the baro-field 5 times and they still stood in there, I had it with this group and trying to explain) and even though our adds merged aswell, we still got to see Kalia perform her nerve gas/cloud, a raid-wide AoE that used to wipe you if didnt kill the adds in time - it still happens even if you do kill the adds, but it deals less damage then.

So I see two options here right now:
1) There was a bug that happend for some specific reason (because two things that shouldnt come together came together or something like that) - that would need looking into. Intresting here would be of the question: Can this bug be reproduced? As in: is it something that always/very often happen?
2) There was no problem except you missunderstanding something of the fight - I could actually imagine something along the lines of you expecting the adds merging would wipe you immidiatly; you felt you couldnt deal damage to the add anymore (if you werent close to it, that might actually be the case, its a mechanic, there is a buff for that on the add) and because the timer took so long to run out you assumed something was broken.
So... did the adds disappear before you gave up? Did Kalia casted nerve gas/cloud? Were you able to target her after that?

[Awful]

Hell in Sophia Ex alone the mechanics are far worse than anything I saw in Coils...

Reaaaallllyyy are you suuuuureeee?

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

No it quite literally broke it, and stranded us there.

Report it.

The insta kill mechanic failed, then everything went invulnerable so you couldn't kill anything anymore. So locked us in the instance. But again... somehow this is an "achievement" to you?

It is if you learn the mechanics and handle them so that you avoid an instant kill mechanic that may or may not be bugged. Besides, Leave>requeue>do it right isn't all that hard to do either.

Basically the dungeon is no longer relevant in this day and age. And the mechanics are pointless at the level its set to.

So is Alexander: Gordias, Void Ark, Alexander: Midas, Weeping City of Mhach, and every primal up to Zurvan. But you still have to perform their mechanics if you want to win. Right now, and even later in Stormblood.

So unless they update this thing to current levels... its still fades into obscurity and irrelevance... like it is now with the empty queues. Who at 50th level is going to bother with it when they are handed better gear through the MSQ immediately once they get to Heavenward. Not to mention getting sling shotted through the levels to 70th.

Anyone who wants to experience the story, get the items for new jobs from there that may perhaps be added later, or anyone who just simply enjoyed it. Hell, I went in alone just to take some cool pictures recently. Besides, this is simply the nature of gaming content with levels.

Or since the only thing really worth it is the Story portion of it... just make it a normal level challenge at 50th, since... well... 50th level is meaningless now... and even more meaningless once we get to Stormblood.

It IS a normal level challenge at 50. A normal Raid challenge at 50, back when that's what a normal raid was. And even that has been lessened by nerfs and Echo. If you're wanting a level 50 dungeon challenge, go run a level 50 dungeon.

[Silverquick]

I've actually given up trying to give reasonable responses, he ignores them anyway.

Don't worry that's the way I look at you...

You're so out of touch with where the game actually is its like you got stuck at level 50... and are still there.

But that's ok, I saw a lot of that in this thread. Its why I seriously wonder if you guys even play this game anymore... none of the things out there are anywhere even close to whatever it was you thought it was.

You guys are just literally that out of touch with the game and where it is now.

[Settiesama]

Don't worry that's the way I look at you...

You're so out of touch with where the game actually is its like you got stuck at level 50... and are still there.

But that's ok, I saw a lot of that in this thread. Its why I seriously wonder if you guys even play this game anymore... none of the things out there are anywhere even close to whatever it was you thought it was.

You guys are just literally that out of touch with the game and where it is now.

And now you've resorted to plain out failed trolling as you have no defense left.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Don't worry that's the way I look at you...

You're so out of touch with where the game actually is its like you got stuck at level 50... and are still there.

But that's ok, I saw a lot of that in this thread. Its why I seriously wonder if you guys even play this game anymore... none of the things out there are anywhere even close to whatever it was you thought it was.

You guys are just literally that out of touch with the game and where it is now.

So where does that put you?

In level 50 content at 60, failing mechanics and calling it a bug?
Ignoring good advice and information while trying to play holier-than-thou?
Posing nonsensical questions and casting doubt where it's undue?

I'm having a hard time understanding while I'm busy clearing what you can't, performing mechanics properly either at level or above, and more.

[Vidu]

Don't worry that's the way I look at you...

You're so out of touch with where the game actually is its like you got stuck at level 50... and are still there.

But that's ok, I saw a lot of that in this thread. Its why I seriously wonder if you guys even play this game anymore... none of the things out there are anywhere even close to whatever it was you thought it was.

You guys are just literally that out of touch with the game and where it is now.

Yep, I'm stuck at level 50 content. Thats how I got all classes to 60, have my main jobs (all tanks, scholar and bard) at an average ilvl raging from 265-270 by making use of current raid-gear from the actual, difficult raids (you know, savage, not Dun Scaith) and got my firebird (thats the mount you get once you got the mounts from all HW-EX-primals).
But sure, I'm stuck on level 50...

I'm so out of touch with the game that I have memorized not only all level 50 content (including all coils and EX-primals), but also all HW-EX-primals, trails, dungeons and part of Savage. I'm so out of touch with the game that I can tell you where and how to get about 85% of all the items in the game - most of my friends dont bother using a database, they ask me. I'm so out of touch that I have melded my crafters to be able to craft 4star gear and my gatherers to gather the current toptier items (heck, I even fished for the damn magic bucket minion and got it, despite hating fisher!)
To be honest, I'll admit I'm not to proud of this in the end xD
But I'm nowhere close to be stuck at level 50, just because I'd like to have more challenging content in the game for me to tackle if I wish to do so.

[ErryK]

and irrelevant in this day and age of the game.

Dude, if the content is as irrelevant as you put it, why are you doing it? For some kind of "achievement"?

[Dualgunner]

No it quite literally broke it, and stranded us there.

So it was a bug, then.

The insta kill mechanic failed, then everything went invulnerable so you couldn't kill anything anymore. So locked us in the instance. But again... somehow this is an "achievement" to you?

It is actually quite an achievement to fail so hard the game breaks, yes.

Basically the dungeon is no longer relevant in this day and age. And the mechanics are pointless at the level its set to.

So don't do them, since there's no point.

But if there was really no point we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?

So unless they update this thing to current levels... its still fades into obscurity and irrelevance... like it is now with the empty queues.

Well considering there is no Unsynched DF, the reason is probably because most people PF their way into Coil since going in through DF would sync you to 50, and rare is the player who will do coils at 50.

Who at 50th level is going to bother with it when they are handed better gear through the MSQ immediately once they get to Heavenward. Not to mention getting sling shotted through the levels to 70th.

People leveling alt jobs, for one. Also that's more an issue with the MSQ giving gear out like that, not coils.

Or since the only thing really worth it is the Story portion of it... just make it a normal level challenge at 50th, since... well... 50th level is meaningless now... and even more meaningless once we get to Stormblood.

Naw. If you really wanna experience the story you gotta go through as is. If you don't wanna do that then you don't really want the story do you?

But I mean again...it's not really pointless, since we are having this conversation. There's something you want from Coil but just can't get, apparently.