Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
It has been a while since I last ran vault, but even though I wasn't there for pharos pre-nerf I was under the impression that it was hard enough to make pugs wipe, from what I read. Weeping city was ok since it's something you run once a week, so 1-2 wipes would be bearable, but 1-2 wipes on average in something I run daily, yeah I'd rather not. I don't remember if vault was that hard or not though.
It made PUGs wipe because they ignored mechanics - not killing adds and other, very simple stuff. It wasnt actually difficult - it simply required you to pay a bit of attention to the content and the mechanics.