Coils of Bahamut... and its inconsistent challenge level.

[Dualgunner]

#neverforget.

We shouldn't even get achievements for running it unsync. No Louisoix for T13 unsynced!

Heyyy now I remember where I remember Payton from! I lurked on that thread x3

[Annoynymoose]

You can click the blue arrows to be redirected to the post itself. It wasn't in this thread.

I remember reading that thread. It gave me constipation :v

[HyoMinPark]

You can click the blue arrows to be redirected to the post itself. It wasn't in this thread.

Ah, I see.
Excuse me then while I go to read it.

[bswpayton]

Many people are sayin that people don't want challenge that people don't want to learn but this is a huge generalization. Like I said I didn't have to go back and do the Arr primals sync I didn't have to go into failed df over and over again but I did because it was important to me to do these fights and clear and try to get an understanding of them sync.

But these fights also can be done sync whether its doing mentor roulette are tryin the duty finder and waiting for an hour or so. I want to learn and the op also stated they wanted to do even coil sync. But heres the difference in opinion if the community as a whole only gives one option of doing the content which for coil is gona be unsync then its pointless to learn it. For what, if I cant do it sync if I cant get any form or the real challenge in anyway possible then I don't want to learn it I want to faceroll it. Im not gona learn things for a false sense of a fight, and with unsync being the only option it makes the content irrelevant.

And please don't come with the make a party finder cause nobody is doing coil sync and we all know this. We just have different views on a feature, like I said I want to personally challenge myself, yea its some mechanics I find annoying and that aggravate me but Im not gona ask for a nerf on it. I hope the game continues to get more challenging and that I can take part in meeting those challenges. But again with challenges you have the whole zurvan thing and people get vile and I believe the devs know this so I don't know how they will balance that because you make things to hard it just will start creating wedges more and more between players.

But we are talkin about a feature here if my only option to do something is unsync and in my experience unsync equals clear, Ive never done something unsync and didn't finish it. That's my interpretation of the feature just like everyone has their own I don't know what the op is referring to wanting nerfed because I refuse to do a raid if the only option I have to do it is a fake sense of challenge. If you only gona give me a half assed way to do the content then naturally I will or many other people will only want to half ass it. I don't really understand why this is hard to understand unsync creates and promotes laziness I for one wish the feature wasn't even in the game but we all know what would happen if it wasn't these other forms of content would never get touched. When you enter into an instance unsync you are saying essentially im to lazy to do this otherwise and Il admit to that Im not gona wait in duty finder and wait on arr primals to finish getting horses.

Im entering the unsync with the idea that I can be lazy and put in hardly any effort in this instance because it was made for my convenience to do so. That's what unsync is a quick fix basically like getting a test in school and the teacher giving you the answers you just gota put them on your test. So if I see threads like Ive been seeing from some people who want nerfs to content I know that nobody is runin sync with them or that I know would be hard to get a party for sync then I agree with them. Everything else under the veil of unsync is easy so why make something harder than the other instances you can run unsync. So that's the jist of the difference I want to beat and learn content just as much as the next person but that's sync content only if Im doing unsync something I am deciding to go into easy mood and do whatever it is im doing at the least amount of effort possible.

That's the difference in views but I don't really see how anyone can argue that unsync feature doesnt equals easy because it does no matter how you spin it. Whether you chose to believe it or not its always the recommended option for doing something old, because everyone knows its a breeze. I personal highly doubt id have the trouble that op is mentioning with this content but I feel for his plight because if he cant get it sync then he should have it easy just like everything else that goes unsync is easy there should be no one shot mechanics that are to difficult when going into the realm of uysnc it should be an automatic clear.

Otherwise if people that couldn't clear the content any other way for whatever reason and if they still cant unsync then what good is unsync then? Every feature in this game serves a purpose and unsync purpose if it doesn't allow everyone to clear something then its really no purpose to the feature at all. Because we already have access , to content so its not for that, so if it isn't for clearing stuff then what, the option to just underside parties? They could of also just given us this option as well and left it at that , but they didn't they allowed us to be over geared have all of our moves, and put echo in.

So if it doesn't already and I believe it does it should me automatic clear I cant say this enough otherwise its existence is meaningless we can fail in sync content unsync should be a straight shoot. So I guess I need to clarify do I want everything given to me certainly not , do I want everything casual in the game nope I sure don't. I will work for sync content I will spend hours on sync content , I will read watch take notes , etc learn sync content. If Im doing something usync or anyone else for that matter for the feature to have any worth then yes give me everything as quick as possible because that's the agreement of what usync is "quick clear get gear". All jokes aside tho if people aren't getting clears are having trouble with doing things usync then we may really need to evaluate the point of the feature again then.

(I also see people or refrencing my other thread that I made on unsync and rewards, I stand by but the difference is that's my personal preference. I will not take a reward from anything I haven't cleared sync period. But after that thread I realized everyone isn't going to be like me and everyone may want things just because they can have it. So the rule still stands for myself I will never take the titan extreme horse because I never cleared it sync, If I don't clear a12s sync you want see me riding around in that mount ever. But again Im one person I have my own set of rules for myself other people play different and I accept that and if I accept that then I must believe in making things easier for everyone when they are tryin to get old outdated rewards.)

[Istaru]

I remember reading that thread. It gave me constipation :v

It got me suspended for 10 days lol

Actually, my flippant attitude did but same difference.

[Settiesama]

Snip

Not even going to justify with a long answer, so I'll keep it brief.

Unsync was added to HELP people clear older content, never instant clear. You need to learn this fact, learn the meaning of help. It allows people to do it with less people

Ah, I see.
Excuse me then while I go to read it.

Also have fun, it's a riot XD

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I said it before and I'll say it yet again:

Running Coil unsynced is easy because we learned what to do.

I get that you want to run it synced and it's hard to find people that also want to, but that still doesn't mean running it unsynced should remove any and all challenge from it. Furthermore, you have the benefit of there being MANY guides out there. Read them, watch them, LEARN THE MECHANICS, and you'll see just how easy Coil now is. High HP, high gear, and higher damage than what was originally capable is all that running it unsynced will give you. You have to do the rest yourself still.

[Annoynymoose]

It got me suspended for 10 days lol

Actually, my flippant attitude did but same difference.

It's why I never said much on that thread. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get either a temporary or permanent ban if I did

[Settiesama]

I noticed alot of posts were removed from that thread, a load of mine were.

[Istaru]

So if it doesn't already and I believe it does it should me automatic clear I cant say this enough otherwise its existence is meaningless we can fail in sync content unsync should be a straight shoot.

Disagree, completely.

The option in the game is actually called "Undersized Party". The features, taken directly from DF are:

• Level sync and item level sync are disabled and role requirements are ignored
• Defeating enemies will yield no EXP or items
• Only certain duties allow undersized parties
• Only the party leader may select this setting

That's it. Do you see what's missing? Of course not, I'll help.

Not on the list, "Selecting this setting guarantees a clear without consideration to duty, player skill or any ability to learn or pay attention". Do you know why? Not the intention of that.

The intention is to make it so that you can take a smaller party into content and help get people their clears easier if you cannot get 8 people. That is the intent. It was never to make the content cream puff easy and a guaranteed win.

To be quite frank, I don't give one crap much less two about how the community of the lazy, the clueless and the moronic have corrupted it to mean "I get stuffs good". There always have been and always will be content that has autokill mechanics, the sooner you and some other people can accept that the designers of the game have created that for a reason, the sooner we can get on to discussing something important.

Like the lack of midcore content. Content that is a challenge, not as much of a challenge as Savage can be, but more content at EX Primal level and above.