Coils of Bahamut... and its inconsistent challenge level.

[Settiesama]

Why am I still responding?

Because you secretly enjoy torturing yourself.

[bswpayton]

My head hurts..

But aside from rng what is not give me loot about the current arr primals when you run them unsync?

Ramuh beat him to the ground ignored just about every mechanic, but the adds done in less than five minutes.

Garuda beat her to the ground ignore the two adds ignore every mechanic but maybe spiny but she might be dead unsync before he even comes out less than 3 mins.

Levitan hold dps beat him to the ground dodge which even unsync can still cause some issues I guess but still done in less than 5 mins.

Shiva kill adds tank and spank kill her ignore all meahanics even if your friend gets stuck in the ice just burn the boss done less than five minutes.

Ifrit kill nails ignore tank swap ignore nails igore room wide aoe hold dps on on second set of nails done in less than 5 mins.

King moogle tank and spank less than five mins, Titan extreme Ill admit with him falling off the platform can still happen whatever level you are but he still can be tanked and spanked.

So did people skip the 103 quest to hw because unsync allowed them to do it nope I dont think so, if anything the community has modified my attitude on these instances. I was the type that you know viewed this whole game as you know a whole entire game but its not tho, this game is what every patch that we are currently on. So once stormblood hits dont tell me that 75 percent of the game will aside from leveling be ran unsync on the regular because 50 percent of it now sure is. Like Im not in some fantasy land I know what I see on the party finder unsync snowcloak just need for anima, usnync pony farms quick burns this is what people think of old content.

Just because you or I prefer sync method doesnt mean thats what the playerbase wants SE gave this feature and the playerbase took it and run with it. If the intent wasnt to make things faceroll thats role then it sure was a consiquence to the feature. And Ive already been debatin this already I think it will effect the game greatly no point to make a post about it but I think the feature is going to really effect the game in a negative way but its what the players want.

So image a player already has all the horses however they got them usync or whatever how long did it take them to get those horses Id say that the rng could of taken them a good bit of time. Well guess what with the hw primals you dont even have to worry about rng preventing you from your months just zerg the boss 99 times you can buy it gona cut down on lots of bird farming.

And unlike coil alexanders story isnt even in the savage version so its no need to even bother doing that as well, so basicly two major changes coming along the way. But people want it easy so Im just like **** it might as well make it as easy as possible so that people can get what they want. So what your saying is basicly whats already happened and will develop even more as time goes on. So I guess all I can say is I hope all new content is actually worth it and holds people over because with unsync everything is zerg the boss whether you like it or not.

@Vidu

Again Im not being unrealistic I am being real and being observant of the player base at least those on my server and what I see in the party finder. What you are talkin about is a niche group of a niche group I have stated I like challenge and want challenge. But I cant tell you how many times before I actually got to current content I was told and directed to you know catch up with everyone else. Ive stated before this isnt a game you can just simply do what you want to do this is a game thats very dependent on what the community is willing to do and the community aside from the small amount of people on this thread could give two craps about doing stuff once its old the proper way.

Ive made many post about tryin to do things sync and tryin to get a challenge from these things but every time I was met with get up to where we are now that stuffs old. Dont worry about level 50 stuff your rotations different now, I dont wana do old stuff cause I dont have all my moves is what people would say. Actually people on this forums even went as far to ask me to unlock my lodestone so they could see when I cleared primals oh because I cleared them when they wernt current I was some kind of horrible player. Are how people will even say now oh you cleared alex with echo , you didnt really clear it then should of done it current this is what elitist say. Like maybe its different on different servers, but even with pf I know what I see and I check any primal that isnt hw is ran unsync aside from the very rare person that goes against the grain. I just started in hw , and this game has shown me unsync old stuff it doesnt matter do the new stuff for birds, and keep up with each new challenge in the current patch.

All people care about is progression they dont care about the fact that this is a whole game, so no Im not disrespecting you but just being real and honest . Even the ones that said that oh its some sync coil runs in pf if we did the math on any given month what percentage would that be im willing to say not even one percent. So you want people to focus on something that less than 1 % of the player base wants I want it myself but I know im outnumbered but guess what as the saying goes the majority rules. Im just not in this delusional realm that people actually care about doing this content, because Ive clearly seen that they arent because like I said this game is about whats current and whats current only and that I guess is the nature of an mmo and its something I had to learn myself and maybe others in this thread should as well.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I said it before and I'll say it yet again:

Running Coil unsynced is easy because we learned what to do.

I get that you want to run it synced and it's hard to find people that also want to, but that still doesn't mean running it unsynced should remove any and all challenge from it. Furthermore, you have the benefit of there being MANY guides out there. Read them, watch them, LEARN THE MECHANICS, and you'll see just how easy Coil now is. High HP, high gear, and higher damage than what was originally capable is all that running it unsynced will give you. You have to do the rest yourself still.

[Settiesama]

I wouldnt know because If I cant do it sync more than likely ill never do it so I really dont know what the mechanics are

This is one of your most stand out comments this entire thread for me.

1) You can do it synced, and alot of people ARE willing to do it like that, just form a party in PF. Prime Time being the best bet.

2) You have no right even commenting if you aren't even willing to do it. You just make it sound like you want it made into an insta-clear so you can do it.

Edit: 3) You might even enjoy it while it's unsynced.

[Istaru]

This is one of your most stand out comments this entire thread for me.

1) You can do it synced, and alot of people ARE willing to do it like that, just form a party in PF. Prime Time being the best bet.

2) You have no right even commenting if you aren't even willing to do it. You just make it sound like you want it made into an insta-clear so you can do it.

Edit: 3) You might even enjoy it while it's unsynced.

It could end up like that other thread where the comment becomes basically "Just add the rewards to the mogstation already".

[Annoynymoose]

Since logical explanations won't work, have a gif.

[technole]

At-times I wish they never introduced the un-sync feature in this game, or at-least don't allow it for Wanderous Tails. But I understand since the content isn't relevant and you won't always need 8-people anymore for such raids. Just the feature allows a breed of people who don't respect mechanics and think every instance is a punching bag.

But it can add another nice challenge early-on for those of us who did the raids when relevant. The first undersized we ever did when HW came out in 3.0 was 4-man Turn 9, and we did every mechanic including fire/ice, and dive-bombs twice. Nowadays you got people who can't even do the divebomb mechanics if they ever saw them, let alone know how it works. Even during that time a lot of bad players couldn't even clear it with 8-people unsync, or get past golems/meteors.

[Bloody]

I hope I didn't disappoint, Settie.

[Lambdafish]

Just putting it out there because people seem to think that people don't do coil anymore, if you need a clear and are on primal server, I will most certainly help you out so long as you being a positive attitude towards learning the little mechanics that you do need to learn

[Vincent_Mateus]

You guys are epic. I didn't look into this thread all day, as I was recovering from the aids I got from it yesterday. This thread made me wish that unsynced/undersized just removed the character level cap, so you could go into coil at the appropriate ilvl (130 or below) and still use all your level 60 skills