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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The servers were designated EU from the launch of 2.0, and players on legacy servers were able to freely transfer to Ragnarok at the time. Those that chose to stay on non EU designated worlds made their beds then.
    No, you - along with a few other posters flocking to this thread - are just deliberately ignoring the complications that exist. It's not a cut and dry matter and more could have been done to resolve the problem in advance. The irony is that looking at the post history of those pointing fingers shows that when a problem affects them, directly, they're amongst the first to kick up a fuss about it. It's interesting how that works, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The servers were designated EU from the launch of 2.0, and players on legacy servers were able to freely transfer to Ragnarok at the time. Those that chose to stay on non EU designated worlds made their beds then.
    Yet the NA players who chose to be on Ragnarok back then for timezone or friendship reasons were bailed out by the free transfer. What about all of the people who joined after 2.0 hit, but before the mythical EU datacentre ever came to be? They were actively being advised to join NA servers 'because there's no real difference' on these official forums for a very long time, and no mods ever jumped in and said that was bad advice because until the EU datacentre was formally announced very few people believed that it was really coming. S-E has acknowledged that the lag will increase for players outside NA, therefore the decision to play on a NA server has a different meaning now than it did back then.
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    Player Lexia's Avatar
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    You're expecting them to pay a real life fee as well as to sacrifice most of their acquired gil due to transfer limitations and a house if they're lucky enough to own one. In addition, you expect them to also abandon any established social networks and commitments.
    I'm pretty sure these limitation would still exist even if the transfers were free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LORD_METATRON View Post
    There's no reason to offer free transfer. You should have relocated as they introduced the EU data centers instead of blaming SE for moving their NA data center to a better location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    There's no reason to offer free transfer. You should have relocated as they introduced the EU data centers instead of blaming SE for moving their NA data center to a better location.
    because i have friends in NA?

    now im getting more ping
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    Quote Originally Posted by LORD_METATRON View Post
    because i have friends in NA?

    now im getting more ping
    I guess that the majority of NA players having constant trouble with logins, lag/ping, packet loss and dc's are not relevant, because all that matters is that you are playing with your friends and your ping will be different. I see where that discussion is gonna go.
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    Vulpes Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by LORD_METATRON View Post
    because i have friends in NA?

    now im getting more ping
    I'm not being funny but if you are playing on a server that isn't for your region you should expect a higher ping. i've got some people i know in the NA servers but i never thought it was a good idea to play on them since i'm in the EU. You made the conscious decision to prioritize people to play with that you know over the possible connection issues.

    As Luna said you should have moved when they moved the EU servers at the latest
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Excuse me, but when the EU data enter was created, wasn't there an opportunity to move? This move affects the remaking North America servers, why would there be any free transfers to EU? Seems you want two bites at this cherry, does that really make you 3rd class?
    Quote Originally Posted by ffchampion View Post
    As Luna said you should have moved when they moved the EU servers at the latest
    Excuse you, there were no free transfers to the Chaos data centre. Only NA players got special treatment in free transfers away from Chaos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Excuse you, there were no free transfers to the Chaos data centre. Only NA players got special treatment in free transfers away from Chaos.
    I never said they were free in the first place. i just said that they should have moved by that point at the latest. as i also put i said they chose playing with friends over choosing a good ping. even though they were all in the same location why anyone would think that it would be a good idea to play on a NA sever when in EU is ridiculous. People being in a different time zone will affect when you are able to do content.
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    Gunks Foy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Excuse you, there were no free transfers to the Chaos data centre. Only NA players got special treatment in free transfers away from Chaos.
    Wouldn't really call it special treatment. This was the advised server for EU players, but as the server was located in NA also worked for NA players. And afaik, Square did not advertise that Chaos was going to be moving until shortly before they did it, and certainly weren't telling people this in 2013 when the game launched(relaunched). This made sense to offer NA players an option to stay on NA servers. Now, we are talking about EU players on NA servers complaining about not being able to transfer away from the NA servers they've been on. Not exactly the same situation.
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