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    Player
    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Capriana View Post
    In all honesty, I don't remember ever doing a tutorial with the eye animation. It was the first time for me seeing the eye in Palace. Then again I quit getting to lv 50 and came back after 2 years. Maybe they added the tutorial somewhere along the lines I was away ...
    Serious question: Why do you think we need a tutorial for this? Or: Do you really think we need to get an explantions of mechanics straight away when we see them?

    We have a lot of mechanics in this game that we had to somehow figure out - stack markers, dont-stack markers, turn around, get close to the boss, get far away from the boss, stand in this AoE to share the damage, get over in that puddle to get a status-effect that protects you from the next mechanic, tank switch once your Co-tank got so and so many stacks of that debuff, cleanse one debuff but not the other one...
    For me a lot of fun comes from running content blind and figuring mechanics out by myself (well, within a group of friends who like to do the same thing) - isnt part pf the fun in more or less any RPG to figure out how to deal with a boss?

    Having this eye for every "turn around"-mechanic now is them streamlining it - so one can say "Oh, I've seen this before - back then this worked, lets see if it works here aswell!" or if they havent seen it before they can figure out how to deal with the mechanic - but do we really need an ingame guide for everything? Flashy texts on the screen that are flavoury but instead instructions on how excatly to handle a mechanic?
    And wouldnt that make the game pretty dull (or even more dull...)?
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    Kaethra's Avatar
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Serious question: Why do you think we need a tutorial for this? Or: Do you really think we need to get an explantions of mechanics straight away when we see them?
    We don't.

    I did a trial roulette yesterday. Titan HM popped. I didn't see people screwing up when the bombs popped. It seemed everyone knew to stack on the bombs that popped last and then move to the first once they start exploding.

    There's no tutorial for that. Fight is much more complex than Edda. Everyone seems to know that one despite no tutorial. Why is that? Because its general player knowledge. That's part of this being a MMO, not everything is handheld for you by dev created mechanisms. Sometimes the players need to step in. Its how we succeed. And sometimes we get a player or two who aren't up to par. And then we have to work a little harder. It happens, but its part of the plan you signed on for when you queued for the content in question.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Just run it with people you can trust if randoms are getting you down.

    I personally haven't had any issues in the four or so times I did that boss.
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    If we cater to stupid, we'll only get stupid in return.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Vanitas's Avatar
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    Vanitas Olterian
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    ...........Really?
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    Seig345's Avatar
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 66
    Use party finder so if you wipe, your group has a better chance of learning and successfully completing the second run.
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    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

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    Reginaux Vannaire
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    Ragnarok
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Are you in the Stormblood beta?
    I have never heard of this Death Palace before.

    ;^)
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    AsahinaMyLove's Avatar
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    Asahina Karayami
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    Siren
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SilkaN View Post
    Are you in the Stormblood beta?
    I have never heard of this Death Palace before.

    ;^)
    uhm.. my game nor my mother language is english Im allowed to make misstakes :P
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    How about, instead, make the earlier bosses harder?
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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