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    Player
    Yeol's Avatar
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Grey-Satyr View Post
    You can set up cross-world parties in the Party Finder.
    They must be in the same server for PotD
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    Grey-Satyr's Avatar
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    Wretched Grey
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    They must be in the same server for PotD
    I didn't realize that, sorry
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    It's generally seen as 'more efficient' because the quicker a set of floors is completed the quicker another set can be tackled. For many players the novelty has worn off, they may not need silver chests themselves and they're more interested in the experience at the end of the floor set than any other rewards. This isn't helped by the hidden coffers containing items that are - bar some exceptions - basically vendor trash at this point in time. It's not a great situation but it's easily mitigated by using party finder or shout to form a likeminded party.
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    XSamsaraLotusX's Avatar
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    Samsara Lotus
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Talk to people in the party it works.
    If people don't know what you want they cant help it.
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I've had more luck not talking at all. The times I mentioned I need aetherpool people actually started arguing how I'm in the wrong floor range and how I'm wasting time. Yet whenever I stayed silent and methodically checked all rooms and picked the chests people run right past, almost no one objected. You could try that until you get enough aetherpool to solo the place. If you solo up to 100 you get a cool title too and get way more practice with your jobs than speed runners.
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    Elrica Lavandula
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Because of this, I just only ever duo PotD with my boyfriend now.
    Too many times we had at least one person standing in the exit ALL THE TIME and insulting us when we were looking for silver chests. We didn't even go into every room, and we tried to be as fast as possible. But I absolutely hate doing all the work in dungeons etc. for others who do nothing at all. I don't see why I should level his character.
    After we noticed that even with low aetherpool we cleared the floors almost as fast as with randoms like that, we never did PotD with a matched party ever again.
    I get that many people want to do PotD only for leveling, but it's still group content. If one wants to ignore every chest to stand in the exit and three don't, I don't see why we should keep that one in the group. It's the same the other way around. If you're not willing to adjust to what the other three members want, maybe you would reach your goal faster if you make a PF group and everyone would be happier I guess.
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    Faust Eisenhart
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 60
    In general the plan is "If pugs don't do what you want, make your own group". That said, when I need potd funbux from chests, I find that it's best to just talk to your party. They like to speedrun by default(It's like, the fastest levelling possible, really), but if you tell them that you need stuff a lot of folks will acquiesce and help you.
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    Ferth Fontaine
    World
    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    This is always an interesting discussion... Right up there with "Who should be rolling need/greed..."

    As long as they aren't just skipping every chest (I know people that do this.) then even just the incidental silver chests you find on the way while speed running will get you a decent rate of upgrades. But it will also get the people looking for exp more exp and the people looking for tomes more tomes.

    If people in this game were (generally speaking) more willing to actually talk to one another then ideally you could work it out with every group when you enter what most people in the group want.

    Everyone has a tendency to think their own needs supercede those of others. "How dare that rando roll need on that 245 item when they are wearing full 270! I could use it to gear up an alternate job!"

    Nearly every facet of PotD is RNG. Checking every room doesn't guarantee you will find more silver chests, but it does guarantee that each instance will take longer. Whereas leaving each floor as soon as you can doesn't mean you won't ever come across silver chests, but it does mean you won't spend as much time in each instance.

    You can either view it as "I need to get the most out of each time I enter PotD regardless of how long it takes." Or you can view it as "I need to make the most out of the time I spend in PotD as a whole."

    If you are going to spend an hour in PotD, would you rather clear 2 sets of floors and maybe find a few more silver chests or clear 3 sets of floors, maybe find some silver chests and definitely get money and exp/tomestones?
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    Last edited by Ferth; 04-20-2017 at 04:29 PM.

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    XSamsaraLotusX's Avatar
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    Samsara Lotus
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I've had more luck not talking at all. The times I mentioned I need aetherpool people actually started arguing how I'm in the wrong floor range and how I'm wasting time. Yet whenever I stayed silent and methodically checked all rooms and picked the chests people run right past, almost no one objected. You could try that until you get enough aetherpool to solo the place. If you solo up to 100 you get a cool title too and get way more practice with your jobs than speed runners.
    You see no problem at all that its this way in an mmo?
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    Player
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by XSamsaraLotusX View Post
    You see no problem at all that its this way in an mmo?
    I see plenty of problems. That people would see you get no reward just so they can get theirs a little faster. That the content is designed in a way where players can prevent others from getting a reward. That the content requires aetherpool, which requires the help of other people, which isn't available because the incentive to get chests has become obsolete for most people running the content. That asking politely and trying to form your own group don't actually get you what you need, which makes soloing or inconveniencing others the only way to get what you are there for, in an MMO. That this content is limited to your server so finding like-minded people is harder than just doing it by yourself.

    There are ways to fix it, like putting exp tokens in silver chests or putting 3 bonus silver chests in front of every boss so there are benefits to speed running for everyone. However SE won't acknowledge there's a problem until the players do.
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