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  1. #1
    Player
    Bacent's Avatar
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 90

    If you have a card from a raid, you should only be allowed to roll greed

    I'm mostly bringing this up, because there are still many people that complain about getting the cards. Earlier today I won a Diabolos Hollow card with a 95.....only to realize I already had one, and that I out-rolled someone else who had a 94.

    I'm suggesting that with cards that are only given out in 24 man raid stuff, if you already have the card registered, you should ONLY be allowed to roll greed, so other people have a better chance of getting something for their collection.

    Another reason being that pretty soon the current three towers will become like CT/ST/WoD, only to possibly be done again when the next relic stuff is out in 4.X and we potentially need items that we can get by doing one of each of the old towers per week.


    EDIT

    Would people be against the reasoning of making the cards PART of the weekly quests/ect for the towers? Or in a quest of their own do be done like that once a week?

    Right now we have the weekly quest for the current relic where by doing each of the old towers once each, you get an aether oil.

    And right now by doing dun scaith you get an item to trade in for a single ilvl 270 accessory, or that armour that's only good for glamour.

    Would people be against adding a quest/a few quests to said places so people will not have to miss out on cards they need, AND people who don't need them/only care about the MGP can do them as they please? This of course would remove the fact that you could have a 'chance' of getting the card from the raid instance, but you would 100% be sure that you would get the card.

    Older cards from this kind of stuff can get harder and harder to get a group to do, but something like this, I believe would give some people more of a reason to go back to do these.
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    Last edited by Bacent; 03-30-2017 at 10:03 AM. Reason: Idea thing.

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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Better yet, just make it so that if someone is in the raid they have a chance of obtaining the card once the final boss is defeated as part of the personal loot system. That would align well with the drop chance for most other cards tied to PvE content and it'd be less frustrating than losing out week after week because you're usually competing against twenty three other players to roll the higher number.

    Still, I wouldn't oppose you own idea - that would make things less annoying as well.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Cards in those 24 man raids used to have a chance to drop directly into your inventory (and in the ARR-raids its still like that). They changed that with VA - the Echidna-card used to be a direct drop and turned into chest-loot.
    No idea why they changed it though...

    The addition of disabeling you from rolling need in case you already have the card sounds pretty good to me - so, yes please!
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    Cirra Maru
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    Famfrit
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    This would be nice. I often forget if I have the card myself, it would be nice to have something that tells me, "no need to roll, mate, you've already got it!"
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    This sounds good.

    INB4 someone joins in with "My need for MGP is equal to your need to use this item!!" like in earlier discussions about dungeon gear.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 03-29-2017 at 08:29 PM.

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    Ethan Vayne
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    Ragnarok
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    Sage Lv 100
    Shouldn't it just work like the ponies and lanners? If you have it, you can't roll need or greed?
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    Phafi Flailspike
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    Paladin Lv 80
    After seeing title, I thought this was going to be about getting Balances.
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Being able to roll Greed is fine since you can at least use the leftover cards when everyone has theirs, whereas extra mounts just end up being discarded. Very sensible suggestion; the stress of not being able to tell whether you already have rare one-time-use items makes the loot system in this game a pain sometimes.
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  9. #9
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    Reginaux Vannaire
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    Ninja Lv 80
    I want any free MGP I can get, so I will always roll need. Fight me.
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Shouldn't it just work like the ponies and lanners? If you have it, you can't roll need or greed?
    No it should not, they should revert it to the personal loot system used in literally every other duty with cards, those cards are worth quite a bit of MGP so there's no reason why they should be unobtainable if you already have one.
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