Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
Let me ask you this then would you say to put the Arr primals in the rf as well then. I dont think youd advocate for that so why with the same fate coming swiftly to these primals should we keep them in the rf when in two months people could care less. Its not necessary , so we should appease farmers for two more months just to make them happy when they couldnt care less once the expansion hits. That's pretty much what everyone is arguing here a small two month window when it has been a certain way for the rf whole existence but you guys cant handle a mere two months.
If titan ex was in the raid finder it really wouldn't matter at all.

Let me ask you this. How many people queue titan ex or coil t13 in the duty finder?

Without touching party finder because it seems people don't want to ya know create a learning party and just expect duty finder success.

Go and queue them. Tell me how long they take to ding? Probably pull some people queuing mentor roulette to help you fill the party. Does mentor roulette include coil I dunno?

When it does ding though tell me how many attempts it takes to clear it or see it abandoned? Was there a newbie there?

My point is that even though these things might be in the duty finder the likely hood you could get a party and clear it is incredibly low. Because people wanting to farm it simply won't touch the duty finder without the option to filter out newbies.

Putting them in the duty finder ultimately helps no one.

Even for more current content. Queue a12s in the duty finder. Tell me how long that takes to ding. Or how long it takes to clear or get abandoned.... were there newbies?

Pretty sure that no one wanting to farm a12s is going to risk a duty finder group without a completed only option.