Put back Extreme trial on raid finder again...please

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I dont think it should go back as people that looking to clear arent able to get in at all as most people dont do uncomplete anymore, adding it to duty finder helps everyone to have chance to clear and people that are cleared can help them clear as well

People can help other people to clear in RF aswell. The difference with DF now is that they have to help, even if they dont want to - and that is bad for both sides.

Because people think that everyone who hasn't cleared something yet is looking for a carry. That is simply not true. Some people just want to get up to bat. Raid finder wasn't working because queues never popped because once people get a clear, they choose the duty complete option. People can't learn if they can't even get a group of 8 to enter with. Duty finder gives people a bigger pool of players. If playing with mere mortals is unacceptable, then don't use DF.

People joining the wrong group for the goals is something that goes both ways. Players that don't have a clue what they are doing shouldn't be joining farm parties. Players that join a learning party shouldn't expect perfection. I've seen too many learning parties fall apart because someone rages over a wipe in a learning party.

Playing with mere mortals is totally acceptable, since we all are that :P Dont try to make this sound as if people who got the clear and want to farm now are all so high and mighty that they dont want to be associated with "peastens" anymore. If DF is only working because it forces people who want to farm into learning groups, than thats broken. If people can only get experience or even kills in DF because people who'd rather not be there but had to swallow that bitter pill, were but into that group, thats not right.
Why are you also so willingly to screw over the experienced people and make the easy matchmaking tool the game gave us, useless for them? Because that is what happend right now: DF is useless for everyone who'd like to farm primals. Its probably great to the see the first two minutes of a fight but thats about it (depending on the fight, ofc). And yet you think its okay to ask of experienced people to throw themself into those first two minutes over and over again because maybe one day, there will be a party who can get the clear?
You're saying DF should be for everyone - when right now its NOT, because it is not useful for those who want quick clears anymore. You're saying that you shouldnt expect that in DF - but RF allowed us to do excatly that!

Sure, farm parties are more useful most often (specially when you do solo-tank or solo-heal strats like on Zurvan), but telling everyone to just make a farm party in PF and not have an option to check "cleared" in DF/RF (I really dont care about the menu it is in...), because you're hoping for those few who dont want to join farm parties right now to hop into DF and get a bunch of strangers to minute five of a fight, is just not... right.

Its a game - it should allow us to have fun! If fun to you means: wiping in phase one of any given EX-primal: Hooray, grats, you can do that by going into DF! If fun means however to clear that fight in less than 30 minutes you are screwed now.