Put back Extreme trial on raid finder again...please

[Rongway]

if you aboilish the raid finder and add that indicator to the duty finder that says someone in your party hasn't cleared this. are you going to give people the option to withdraw from that duty without penalty if that indicator comes up.. maybe they joined to farm a couple of quick wins or are you going to basically hold them to ransom and force them to help you learn or eat a 30 minute penalty... (what happened to there time being as important as yours?)

What are you on about? There's no penalty for declining participation in a full party. You're not making any sense.

the raid finder does not exclude anyone from content.

That's exactly what it's for. It specifically lets you say, "I do not want to play with anyone unless they've cleared this already." And that has always been the only feature of it that actually worked. Practice Phase 1, Practice Phase 2, and Duty Completion were never enforced, and people entering for the first time could choose the Duty Completion option and waste everyone's time.

if practice parties take longer to fill than farm parties that doesn't mean the farmers should have to help you out.

I said zero about forcing farmers to help people. I said, and you even included this quote in your reply,

With this in place ... people who want to farm can form a full party via Party Finder, then easily see, before queuing, if all party members meet the expectation of having previously cleared. [emphasis added]

You don't need a raid interface whose sole feature is a previous clear check. You just need the game tell you if anyone who is in your pre-formed party hasn't cleared the content, before you queue, so we can skip the part where you're pissed off because you entered the raid/trial and immediately disbanded because somebody didn't respect the party finder comment.