Why no Xbox?

[ShadowHunterrX]

This is the case sadly and what I've been reading Microsoft wants too but sony doses not want to loose money to them so it may or not happen in the future.

Why do people fall so easy for PR talk. You know that most of Microsoft cross platform talk is only Xbox and Windows 10 store ? Rocket leauge is 1 of the only 2 games who has steam/Xbox stuff. ONLY 2.

Dont forget DragonQuest peeps. Wii u , 3DS , Switch , PC and PS4.

[AlexanderThorolund]

Xbox already allow cross plataform play:

https://techcrunch.com/2016/03/14/xb...ayer-with-ps4/
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/we.../1100-6438654/

The problem is with Sony hands now, I think they don't want cross-play with Xbox because they can lose some console exclusivity like FFXIV.

Ridiculous. Everyone knows it's Microsoft holding the red tape up. Not Sony.

[LalaRu]

The only one and simple reason why you will never see XIV on XBOX, is because M$ will not makes $$$ out of it so they don't give a sheet about making exceptions to their rules for xiv as a xbox game.

[filexcl]

Xbox 360: https://www.vg247.com/2010/06/24/squ...e-environment/

[ReplicaX]

Why do people fall so easy for PR talk.

Laziness, shred of hope, & cannot accept truth.

- MS failed the JP 360 Market due to their own poor and well documented research & marketing tactics.
- Developers lost millions translating Titles for JP360 or released JP360 games only and lost money due to poor sales from a small install base.
- Many MMO companies gave up trying to bring their titles to their platform due to XBL restrictions.
- Final Fantasy XI was an extremely rare exception to try and boost the first & greatest Cross-Platform MMO in the JP & World Markets on the 360.
- Sony has a strong reputation of Cross-platform gaming since 2002 and with multiple genres & working with various platforms.
- Microsoft, has a strong reputation across multiple genres not to allow or cooperate with other cross-platforms or developers with mods/user generated content.
- XBOne + Win10 is not true cross-platforming, its cross-inter-company platforming.

SE wants control of its own assets, vision & an equal playing field for all platforms. The platform hardware + Internet Access + Subscription. Not additional fees from the hardware Company.

Microsoft is the only one to blame here, period.

[era1Ne]

Ridiculous. Everyone knows it's Microsoft holding the red tape up. Not Sony.

This is wrong according to the rocket league dev: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ro.../1100-6442025/ (at least for their game). FF14 could be a totally different matter.

[jameseoakes]

This is wrong according to the rocket league dev: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ro.../1100-6442025/ (at least for their game). FF14 could be a totally different matter.

AS I understand these are two very different things. As I understand it, this game would net Sony's network to be opened up to Microsoft which Sony seems understandably not keen to do. 14 on the other hand would not as it doesn't actually use the PSN to run the game it just uses it for a user check so 14 would not actually need XBL or PSN to interact in any way as everything is handled by SE's network.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

This is wrong according to the rocket league dev: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ro.../1100-6442025/ (at least for their game). FF14 could be a totally different matter.

Yeah, Yosji-P has never once mentioned Sony as an issue getting the game on the Xbox, only Microsoft.

[Kosmos992k]

AS I understand these are two very different things. As I understand it, this game would net Sony's network to be opened up to Microsoft which Sony seems understandably not keen to do. 14 on the other hand would not as it doesn't actually use the PSN to run the game it just uses it for a user check so 14 would not actually need XBL or PSN to interact in any way as everything is handled by SE's network.

Oops, realized I meant this reply to the poster you'd replied to.

The Rocket League DEV is talking marketing speak. PS4 and PC players have been playing together in Rocket League for something like a year before Microsoft came up with this stuff. So, explain please how it is that Sony is the problem. This nonsense needs to stop. It's so clearly a Microsoft issue that anyone claiming otherwise is being willfully obtuse.

[era1Ne]

Oops, realized I meant this reply to the poster you'd replied to.

The Rocket League DEV is talking marketing speak. PS4 and PC players have been playing together in Rocket League for something like a year before Microsoft came up with this stuff. So, explain please how it is that Sony is the problem. This nonsense needs to stop. It's so clearly a Microsoft issue that anyone claiming otherwise is being willfully obtuse.

What would they as devs and others devs gain from lying? You do know that they can be sued for it? I believe neither Sony or Microsoft see computer as their competitors and have no problem making this cross play. But we are talking about cross play between consoles here, which is a totally different matter, because they are huge rivals and sony as the leader sales wise gets much more money, if they don't allow xbox players to play with ps4 players, because many consoles are sold on the argument "hey my friend has THIS console, so i need to buy it in order to play with them". This means the person has to buy the console, the game and the ps+/gold sub, which is huge for the companys. Now FF14 is an different matters and i do believe this is on microsoft, cause they don't want to bend their others rules for MMO imo. But in general, microsoft is more open to cross play between consoles then sony it seems. independend devs have no reason to lie here. Also the whole "past" - argument is a bit difficult to use here, cause things can change as we've seen time and time ago. As an example even Microsoft allowed cross play before their huge rule change. One of the examples was FF11, in which Xbox 360 and PS2 players could play together.