Why no Xbox?

[Stitches1974]

They also funded Mistwalker Corporation for the same reason and then killed it. Which is sad, Lost Odyssey was such a good game.

Sadly a game I never got to finish, because of them being cheap with the packaging and causing all those disk 4 read errors.

[NaesakiAshwell]

They also funded Mistwalker Corporation for the same reason and then killed it. Which is sad, Lost Odyssey was such a good game.

I remember the whole issue with Namco and getting Tales of Vesperia exclusive for 360, i mean PS3 eventually got a better version but its not left Japan due to M$ still seemingly retaining rights to it in the west(?)

When the better ps3 version arrived a year later, a lot of Japanese fans who specifically bought a 360 for Vesperia, showed videos and screenshots of them smashing the 360 to bits and snapping the game discs in protest / anger / frustration. .___.

[Kaethra]

Microsoft: "We do not wish for our paying players to get utterly wrecked by the PCMR and PS4 players."

That's Microsoft's opinion. They believe their own playerbase needs to be coddled and isn't capable of competing with PS4 or PC players in any shape or form.

[Settiesama]

I don't know where the idea of it being cross server that is a problem, as Microsoft clearly allows for that. It's the double payment that is the issue. SE wants them to allow XIV to be played on Silver account, while Microsoft doesn't want that to happen after XI.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I don't know where the idea of it being cross server that is a problem, as Microsoft clearly allows for that. It's the double payment that is the issue. SE wants them to allow XIV to be played on Silver account, while Microsoft doesn't want that to happen after XI.

They do have a bit of a caveat with cross platform. They require that Live players be able to play on servers with only other Live players, as an option. This is the 2nd reason it will not happen until they change that particular stance.

[dragorian]

Xbox already allow cross plataform play:

https://techcrunch.com/2016/03/14/xb...ayer-with-ps4/
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/we.../1100-6438654/

The problem is with Sony hands now, I think they don't want cross-play with Xbox because they can lose some console exclusivity like FFXIV.

This is the case sadly and what I've been reading Microsoft wants too but sony doses not want to loose money to them so it may or not happen in the future.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

This is the case sadly and what I've been reading Microsoft wants too but sony doses not want to loose money to them so it may or not happen in the future.

This instance has nothing to do with Sony and everything to do with Microsoft. Yoshi-P has said repeatedly that Microsoft is unwilling to compromise with SE to meet Yoshi-P's wants of a non-divided playerbase.

[Stitches1974]

This is the case sadly and what I've been reading Microsoft wants too but sony doses not want to loose money to them so it may or not happen in the future.

That is not the case and there are multiple posts explaining why it's not. Shall I try to dig up the video of Yoshi and his translator saying MS, the balls in your court? ( not the exact words, but you get my meaning )

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOMb2Kkf7O8


And this: "and Xbox Live players will always have the option of choosing to play only with other Xbox Live players."

http://news.xbox.com/2016/03/14/lett...DVQiMrimzHI.99

Previous thread on the topic if anyone wants a read: Link

[Kosmos992k]

This is the case sadly and what I've been reading Microsoft wants too but sony doses not want to loose money to them so it may or not happen in the future.

Well, that's a self evident falsehood on the part of Microsoft. PS4 was playing Rocket league with PC players long before Microsoft thought up their latest smoke and mirrors scheme to try to make themselves look like some kind of savior or champion of gamers interests...

Let's look at the evidence shall we?

PS2 could play FFXI (and a couple of other games IIRC) cross platform - even with Xbox players in the days before Microsoft cut access for Xbox outside of XBL that is. The 'champion' of open, cross platform play imposed a restriction on their own customers designed to milk tem for more money. Sony was good with cross platform play in the PS2 days - during the infancy of online gaming.

PS3 could play FFXIV (I believe that were a small number of other games with cross platform ability too) with PC and MAC players - seems like cross platform play was A-OK for Sony then. Could Xbox One? Nope.

PS4 can play many games with PC and MAC players, FFXIV, Rocket league ad others I am certain. Could Xbox One? Nope until MS apparently saw the light...

Except Microsoft embraced openness and cross platform play in such a way that it would require Sony to open PSN to external networks. Given that PSN itself was completely breached - rather famously - a few years back, and the more recent hacking of Sony Pictures, Sony is understandably reluctant to open their network to anything. However, when asked about it, Sony points out that they already support cross platform play with multiple platforms and point out that developers are more than welcome to do it if they wish.

So, if MS is so interested in cross platform play with PS4, why do they impose requirements to interconnect Xbox Live with PSN to make it happen, when clearly that is not required? Couldn't Microsoft have similarly said that developers were welcome to implement cross platform play if hey want? Although had they done that it would mean that Xbox would be able to play online without Xbox Live, which Microsoft will not allow, after all, it would mean Xbox players online in MMO games without paying anything to Microsoft, and that we just cannot allow...

Basically, this is more of the same Embrace, extend, extinguish strategy that Microsoft is well known for in the business world.

They 'Embrace' openness very publicly, saying they see the light and Xbox players should be able to play with everyone...
They extend that cross platform play 'offer' but include a poison pill that they know Sony cannot accept = open PSN to XBL, or no dice.
The extinguish phase comes when people who don't look past the headlines take it at face value that Sony is obstructing something that they have in fact supported since PS2.

Don't fall for the Microsoft lie. If Microsoft wanted Xbox players in Eorzea, they could have been here since day one of ARR. All MS needed to do was allow Xbox players to access game service providers outside of Xbox Live without mandating XBL Gold membership. There is no technical need for integration with PSN to make that happen, quite the opposite. In fact, it requires no real software implementation at all, other than REMOVING an artificial RESTRICTION that Microsoft themselves put in place. Far from looking out for gamer's interests, Microsoft actively works against gamer's interests by finding ways to charge more for less.

[AsahinaMyLove]

Because Microsoft refuse to allow cross platform servers and yoshi-p refuse to separate the player base.

You forgot M$ are GREEEEDY! xp They want you to have Xbox Live membership on. Wich PC dont have, and PS consoles dont need PS+ ether.