Why no Xbox?

[Settiesama]

I don't know where the idea of it being cross server that is a problem, as Microsoft clearly allows for that. It's the double payment that is the issue. SE wants them to allow XIV to be played on Silver account, while Microsoft doesn't want that to happen after XI.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I don't know where the idea of it being cross server that is a problem, as Microsoft clearly allows for that. It's the double payment that is the issue. SE wants them to allow XIV to be played on Silver account, while Microsoft doesn't want that to happen after XI.

They do have a bit of a caveat with cross platform. They require that Live players be able to play on servers with only other Live players, as an option. This is the 2nd reason it will not happen until they change that particular stance.

[AlexanderThorolund]

Xbox already allow cross plataform play:

https://techcrunch.com/2016/03/14/xb...ayer-with-ps4/
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/we.../1100-6438654/

The problem is with Sony hands now, I think they don't want cross-play with Xbox because they can lose some console exclusivity like FFXIV.

Ridiculous. Everyone knows it's Microsoft holding the red tape up. Not Sony.

[era1Ne]

Ridiculous. Everyone knows it's Microsoft holding the red tape up. Not Sony.

This is wrong according to the rocket league dev: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ro.../1100-6442025/ (at least for their game). FF14 could be a totally different matter.

[jameseoakes]

This is wrong according to the rocket league dev: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ro.../1100-6442025/ (at least for their game). FF14 could be a totally different matter.

AS I understand these are two very different things. As I understand it, this game would net Sony's network to be opened up to Microsoft which Sony seems understandably not keen to do. 14 on the other hand would not as it doesn't actually use the PSN to run the game it just uses it for a user check so 14 would not actually need XBL or PSN to interact in any way as everything is handled by SE's network.

[Kosmos992k]

AS I understand these are two very different things. As I understand it, this game would net Sony's network to be opened up to Microsoft which Sony seems understandably not keen to do. 14 on the other hand would not as it doesn't actually use the PSN to run the game it just uses it for a user check so 14 would not actually need XBL or PSN to interact in any way as everything is handled by SE's network.

Oops, realized I meant this reply to the poster you'd replied to.

The Rocket League DEV is talking marketing speak. PS4 and PC players have been playing together in Rocket League for something like a year before Microsoft came up with this stuff. So, explain please how it is that Sony is the problem. This nonsense needs to stop. It's so clearly a Microsoft issue that anyone claiming otherwise is being willfully obtuse.

[era1Ne]

Oops, realized I meant this reply to the poster you'd replied to.

The Rocket League DEV is talking marketing speak. PS4 and PC players have been playing together in Rocket League for something like a year before Microsoft came up with this stuff. So, explain please how it is that Sony is the problem. This nonsense needs to stop. It's so clearly a Microsoft issue that anyone claiming otherwise is being willfully obtuse.

What would they as devs and others devs gain from lying? You do know that they can be sued for it? I believe neither Sony or Microsoft see computer as their competitors and have no problem making this cross play. But we are talking about cross play between consoles here, which is a totally different matter, because they are huge rivals and sony as the leader sales wise gets much more money, if they don't allow xbox players to play with ps4 players, because many consoles are sold on the argument "hey my friend has THIS console, so i need to buy it in order to play with them". This means the person has to buy the console, the game and the ps+/gold sub, which is huge for the companys. Now FF14 is an different matters and i do believe this is on microsoft, cause they don't want to bend their others rules for MMO imo. But in general, microsoft is more open to cross play between consoles then sony it seems. independend devs have no reason to lie here. Also the whole "past" - argument is a bit difficult to use here, cause things can change as we've seen time and time ago. As an example even Microsoft allowed cross play before their huge rule change. One of the examples was FF11, in which Xbox 360 and PS2 players could play together.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

This is wrong according to the rocket league dev: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ro.../1100-6442025/ (at least for their game). FF14 could be a totally different matter.

Yeah, Yosji-P has never once mentioned Sony as an issue getting the game on the Xbox, only Microsoft.

[ReplicaX]

This is wrong according to the rocket league dev

Rocket League is a completely different story and genre. MS wasn't on board with cross-platform during the majority of development:

Dunhan noted that this cross-platform idea had been something they asked Microsoft about when Rocket League was set for an Xbox One release, but he stated that Microsoft did not seem to be on board with it. Only after they had neared the release date would Microsoft take the initiative to offer the title as one for their new cross-play efforts and started working towards this possibility in the game.

Which is why it wasn't turned on until a later patch on XBOne.

There is also zero mention of the actual agreement which is required between MS & Sony for cross-platform and we likely won't hear of its details publicly.

So it isn't as simple as "Sony just has to turn it on". Sony & MS both have to come to an agreement to enable it.

[LalaRu]

The only one and simple reason why you will never see XIV on XBOX, is because M$ will not makes $$$ out of it so they don't give a sheet about making exceptions to their rules for xiv as a xbox game.