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  1. #111
    Player
    OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN's Avatar
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    Mist
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    Character
    Tsuyoshi Scarlet
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    I used to be a pretty avid raider, and have won competitions from doing so, this is one of them http://dn.cherrycredits.com/greendragonresult. While raiding teaches you how to be a better player, I think dealing with the conflicts isn't easy, at some point I felt like it wasn't worth the effort dealing with replacing players, rivalry, dramas, having my meals late, rescheduling , during the competitions we would raid for 17-19hrs a day at one point we did it for 2 months straight, etc.

    To me since I have experienced the price that comes with fame I no longer feel anything towards it, furthermore you worth and fame only lasts either as long as the content lasts or the longevity of the game. I'd like to use the hours I have lost on more important things in life now, getting back to basketball and sports in general again, my studies and work - being able to have full control my time and life. Raiding is fun don't get me wrong, but being burnt out is what leads you to dread the game. Real life responsibilities will catch up with you whether you like it or not and raiding requires alot of time and possible making
    you to miss out on your social life depending on what your team demands. Right now I enjoy playing console games, because you don't need to manage people, you can play at your pace without having to wait for others or to accommodate.
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    Last edited by OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN; 04-18-2017 at 02:48 PM.

  2. #112
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    Nesoi's Avatar
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    Sever Erebu
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Leatherworker Lv 60

    For a better gaming future

    I raided hardcore in ffxi for ten years , by time I got to this game I was burnt out, also ffxiv isn't rewarding like ffxi even though it took longer to get things but once you have obtain it was an accomplishment ffxiv doesn't have the same feel content is to short in this game so all your hardcore raiding an gear you worked to get will be trashed when the next update comes out every three months I believe yoshi p should never made that every three months to come with new patches it's killing the game,so the percentage of players will not attempt to try savage content or some like my self don't see the purpose in it or for others there's a huge skill gap which certain players will never get to that skill to down things such as savage or new raid content when some players are just to lazy an it shows in the content we got the last three years sadly..
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    Last edited by Nesoi; 04-18-2017 at 03:25 PM. Reason: Miss types

  3. #113
    Player
    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Cassandra Solidor
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhao View Post
    Mostly just scared to do super hardcore raiding. The most I've done has been 24man and EX primals.
    I still haven't done Zurvan ex. However, Sophia is super fun (I love the music), and I have been enjoying that fight since it released.
    I'm also rather shy, so theres a lot of fear in my head when considering raiding. Furthermore, its usually my friends who push me to go out of my comfort zone. Its a Paradox! _xD
    Lastly, Stormblood is almost out, so I might as well wait until then if I am going to do it.....right?
    For reference sake, if you can do Sophia EX, you can kill A9S and probably won't have too much trouble learning A10.

    As for waiting, I'd recommend the opposite, actually. If raiding does interest you, then getting your feet wet now will only help. Echo allows for more slip ups with mechanics, which can be extremely helpful for inexperienced raiders. I don't know what the Primal scene is like, but Aether has plenty of learning groups. Best thing to keep in mind is wipes will happen, some may even be your fault. Try not to let it get to you. Every raider, regardless of their skill level, goes through that process before it all "sinks in." Just need to jump in and give it a shot.
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  4. #114
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    SeriousxSarcasm's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Mandar Magoo
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 80
    I would love to raid, I live for challenging game content. But I work full time, I have friends and family that don't game that need me around. I just don't have the time/motivation to devote to it at the end of the day, and no one is interested in learning content with a "filthy casual" lol.
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  5. #115
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    MuseTraveller's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Mihn Saruihn
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    I do the ex trials to collect the birds, (only one left!) but other than that, I don't have the nerves or time to do savage. I don't feel it as rewarding. Gear is easily replaced and all too quickly, no story to keep me on the edge or interesting mounts to personally motivate me to grind the fights.
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  6. #116
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    seekified's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Karis Angara
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    I did FCoB progression when that was a thing in 2.4, and that was probably the most fun I've had in the game. We were pretty casual about it and initially had problems with no-shows for raids, but once that was sorted out it was brilliant and made me a much better player than I was before.

    Alexander really didn't interest me and the Gordias crap didn't help, so I haven't been raiding in Heavensward - settled for EX farming instead, which is alright. Obviously a lot more frustration with player skill when playing with randoms all the time.

    Might be looking into casual raiding again for Omega, but my life looks quite different now than it did two and a half years ago, so who knows.
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  7. #117
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    Galborion's Avatar
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    Character
    Kvietok Cholla
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I used to be a hardcore raider in several MMO's I played before (LoTRO, SWToR, RIFT) and I loved it. But raiding in every single one of these games had some sort of meaning. Best gear, title (hello "Original challenger of Saruman" for first 12 people on server who beat the challenge) etc. In FFXIV is nothing like this. Several reasons why I do not raid anymore (order is random):

    - savage gear should be the BEST gear in game, which is not the case. Gear is subpar in most cases with absolutely horrible secondaries (hello DRK sword with skillspeed and parry just to mention one example of many) and even good pieces last for very short period of time so why bother

    - without static is almost impossible to beat anything, because people are not able to handle simple mechanics... I cannot count wipes even in weekly clears with "no bonus, bring good dps etc"... its just frustrating

    - if you are lucky enough to get static with friendly people, you have to plan all your game activities around raid schedule = you have no time to do other stuff, and I want to do what I want, when I want to.

    And some more which were mentioned already several times in this thread so there is no need to put it here again.
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  8. #118
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    Lisieta's Avatar
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    Character
    Sarnai Borlaaq
    World
    Chocobo
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 62
    I don't raided coz I dislike scripted PvE fights - much preferred PvP where you play spontaneously. Also I don't have the time to invest into static.
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  9. #119
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    Aniise's Avatar
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    Crystarium
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    Character
    Nhaama Kagon
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 92
    I don't raid. Not anymore at least.
    When my old FC decided to start raiding, things got out of hand very quickly. We had three raidgroups and the amount of drama we had to deal with was just unbearable.
    Talking behind backs, badmouthing others and jealousy were some of the main problems we faced.
    People who I thought I was close to grew very distant over time, which I can understand, since our raid'leaders' were actually provoking and supporting the drama instead of trying to solve the problems, thinking the 'competition' would motivate us.
    Well...it didn't...
    Another factor was certainly time. We only raided on the weekends, and had strict rules about attendance. If we would be absent even once, we would instantly be replaced.

    Long story short, all of the groups have split up. And I'm done with raiding for good. Ex bosses and 24-man runs are enough for me and I can enjoy the game even without BiS gear
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    Last edited by Aniise; 04-18-2017 at 05:26 PM.

  10. #120
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Character
    Purple Rain
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 32
    I raid because I want to experience all game content (preferably before nerfs), challenge myself and see how well I can perform (also compared to others on FFlogs). I also love being part of a team that faces and conquers the challenges together, supporting each other.

    The negative side of raiding for me has been trying to schedule the raiding times, which is why I'm not planning to organise any raiding in Stormblood. I'm also not sure if I will be able to raid regularly in SB because of my schedule and living conditions (travelling between two countries), but if possible I will join a raid group organised by someone else or try solo raiding through party finder.
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