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    Quote Originally Posted by Synrin View Post
    I said three times that they should implement a way to adress such harassing in an easy way, like a kick from the ceremony. At the same time this thread has been full of 'haha should've known better' towards OP which is essentially just rubbing salt into the wound. I don't find that okay or appropriate. Sorry I can take a stand instead of indirectly defending the guys who ruined OP's ceremony to begin with.
    There is a way to prevent harassment in the wedding; don't invite people you don't know. It is that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just-Communication View Post
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    sadly , we cant just quit our jobs and go do something else , since we are slaves to the capitalist market , doing that would only make us starve ourself :O
    no money no power :P
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    We don't need them to add a kick option to it. How about people use the invitations as they were intended instead? Give to friends, FC and LS members. If you want the event to be special, keep the people you know and trust, ones who want to be there for you and your other half. If you're having one of those wild anything goes weddings, then invite the randoms for an even wilder wedding, but trying to have a sensible wedding here where people follow your expectations, is not going to be likely with people you don't know. It 'can' happen, but more likely you're going to get some bad eggs
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    I'm kinda more on the side of you shouldn't have invited randoms. Yes there are plenty of times where people are nice and everything goes well, but you are taking the risk of things going bad by inviting people you don't know. I believe that if you think someone is going to be unruly at your wedding, don't invite them. I figure that's probably what SE would say about it as well. I've had a couple of my own weddings be just me, the groom, and a couple of friends. Took some nice screenshots and everything looked great. It was very peaceful. Hell, even my irl wedding was like that. Saved money to spend at Disney World. XD

    You invite randoms, you take that risk. People suck sometimes.
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    Some of the people around here would defend that a thief would have right to steal a bike that's not locked, or steal everything from someone's house after being invited for whatever reason.

    There are ways you can prevent bad things from happening, but that doesn't mean the culprits have the slightest rights to harass people. If you are invited you're supposed to behave like a proper guest, otherwise you have nothing to do there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcwen View Post
    Some of the people around here would defend that a thief would have right to steal a bike that's not locked, or steal everything from someone's house after being invited for whatever reason.

    There are ways you can prevent bad things from happening, but that doesn't mean the culprits have the slightest rights to harass people. If you are invited you're supposed to behave like a proper guest, otherwise you have nothing to do there.
    Not one person in this thread has defended them. They were idiots yes, but you can't take the fault away from the OP for not expecting something like it to happen. They're both to blame. The only one not to blame here is SE, who people are trying to pit the blame on by telling them to fix it, when the intention of the invitations was to be for friends, not people you don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    Not one person in this thread has defended them. They were idiots yes, but you can't take the fault away from the OP for not expecting something like it to happen. They're both to blame.
    Bull. That's like asking someone, "What were you wearing?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Bull. That's like asking someone, "What were you wearing?"
    That doesn't make one bit of sense at all. We clearly stated that people like that very much exist, and is to be expected to get people like that if you just invite people at random. It's a huge chance that you will pick up trolls. No one ever defended them saying they were right in doing so. It's a completely different thing.
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    Last edited by Settiesama; 04-16-2017 at 07:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    There is a way to prevent harassment in the wedding; don't invite people you don't know. It is that simple.
    That is the issue. Harassment should be prevented.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Bull. That's like asking someone, "What were you wearing?"
    And that as well. So many people stating the obvious. Yeah, there are trolls, yeah they do mess things up for you. But that doesn't mean they should bring OP down all the damn time instead of giving actual useful feedback on the matter. There are risks for all sorts of things, it is just like FCs getting robbed and game masters not doing anything. It is a very very gray zone to meddle in, but sometimes inaction breeds nothing but more problems that can be prevented by both player awareness and SE's actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    The only one not to blame here is SE, who people are trying to pit the blame on by telling them to fix it
    So...just to clarify...

    If anyone makes a suggestion for a feature in FFXIV they are blaming SE?

    Why? I don't get it.

    Why is making a suggestion or request automatically blaming SE. Isn't it just a suggestion? Can we not suggest things? Feedback isn't a thing? Are you just mindlessly on the defense for SE here or something that you can't understand that making a suggestion isn't blaming?

    I am okay with the Eternal Bond couple having the power to remove people from their own bonding if they want. I've seen some EBs where people only invited "friends" and some of these people they thought were "friends" (FC/LS) have been disruptive (not as bad as OP, but still). So I wouldn't mind if people had a choice to remove someone if they proved afterwards to be undeserving of an invite even if they were supposed to be friends. So I think it is a good suggestion.

    OP's post is good. It is a warning that others not make that mistake since currently there is no way to remove guests who troll.
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