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  1. #71
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    To be honest I wasn't even expecting a battle video until they released that little weapons one. The routine seems to be the same as it was with Ifrit, which is nice. My only question is that since it is only a Youtube video could they not just throw up some of the content even though they may tweak it the actual battle some still? I assume it was a preview like the Ifrit one was. With cutscene's and things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinook View Post
    Who are the 5 people that actually "liked" the delay ?
    I liked that they give a response when a delay happens, because when a patch release day arrives with no patch and no notification, these forums would explode worse than the moogle weapons. Delays happen, and if FFXIV has ever learned any lesson, its not to release something they feel/know isn't ready...
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie View Post
    To be honest I wasn't even expecting a battle video until they released that little weapons one. The routine seems to be the same as it was with Ifrit, which is nice. My only question is that since it is only a Youtube video could they not just throw up some of the content even though they may tweak it the actual battle some still? I assume it was a preview like the Ifrit one was. With cutscene's and things.
    Nope, because it's not "just a video" and SE isn't a indie developer that can throw up a video displaying unfinished/buggy content. Its easy (usually) to upload a video to youtube (cept when they're screwing things up), but it's not wise to do so if your content is buggy or not a good representation of the content -- They want to make sure it's polished before showcasing it which is what all commercial developers (worth their merit) will do.

    The Ifrit one also showed off some of the battle and think of how if in that preview when Ifrit split into copies after his jump that was bugged and he was stalled in midair or everyone just fell to the ground dead from an invisible attack due to lack of animations? It wouldn't be good for SE lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masamune1004 View Post
    There was a whole thread about it a while back, so yeah lol.

    I just hope no one says the taboo word "toon", or this thread is done for.
    What's wrong with toon? It's animated isn't it.

    Also, if 1.20 means its the 20th patch, and we absolutely need the zero in there to clarify, doesn't that mean the second patch is 1.02, for clarity sake?
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Nope, because it's not "just a video" and SE isn't a indie developer that can throw up a video displaying unfinished/buggy content.
    Uh, that's why their preview videos have that "images still in development and subject to change" disclaimer on the bottom. If the state of the battle is still in THAT much of a mess that you can't even show a preview (which I don't think it is), then we have a problem.

    They just didn't have enough man hours to do a mock battle, record, edit, and encode it in 4 different languages. They got better things to do right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sojiro View Post
    I liked that they give a response when a delay happens, because when a patch release day arrives with no patch and no notification, these forums would explode worse than the moogle weapons. Delays happen, and if FFXIV has ever learned any lesson, its not to release something they feel/know isn't ready...
    They didn't learn their lesson that nothing good comes from making promises. Better be vague as vague as possible instead of communicating delays.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Uh, that's why their preview videos have that "images still in development and subject to change" disclaimer on the bottom. If the state of the battle is still in THAT much of a mess that you can't even show a preview (which I don't think it is), then we have a problem.

    They just didn't have enough man hours to do a mock battle, record, edit, and encode it in 4 different languages. They got better things to do right now.
    Why would I want a video of a buggy fight? I want to see the fight at it's best. If they released the video and things looked wrong with it, then of course the same people complaining they didn't get a video will be complaining that the fight looks messy. Last thing SE wants to show you right now is poor quality content.

    Here is the sad truth which most are aware of. No matter what SE does, no matter how efficient, no matter how their services are, no matter how satisfied they have made their customers, the FFXIV forums will always find a way to complain, gripe, and moan. It feels like a no-win situation for SE. I understand where complaints and criticism are needed, but some stuff I heard on here is so needless to say that I find 80% of the topics on here more comical than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    What's wrong with toon? It's animated isn't it.
    Apparently it is very wrong : http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...t-achievement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    Also, if 1.20 means its the 20th patch, and we absolutely need the zero in there to clarify, doesn't that mean the second patch is 1.02, for clarity sake?
    You could do that, but then you run into a problem when you hit the 100th patch lol.

    I really wish they would just use - or /, something besides a period, it seems to confuse a lot of ppl.

    Math: 1.2 = 1.20 = 1.200 etc.

    Software: 1.2 = 1.02 = 1.002 etc.
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    Last edited by Masamune1004; 12-10-2011 at 05:38 AM.

  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Nope, because it's not "just a video" and SE isn't a indie developer that can throw up a video displaying unfinished/buggy content. Its easy (usually) to upload a video to youtube (cept when they're screwing things up), but it's not wise to do so if your content is buggy or not a good representation of the content -- They want to make sure it's polished before showcasing it which is what all commercial developers (worth their merit) will do.

    The Ifrit one also showed off some of the battle and think of how if in that preview when Ifrit split into copies after his jump that was bugged and he was stalled in midair or everyone just fell to the ground dead from an invisible attack due to lack of animations? It wouldn't be good for SE lol.
    I'm sorry, but as always your white knighting is just wrong from every point of view.

    There's something called "editing" or even "post production", if you're doing a video and there's something you don't want to show you definitely can do it.
    Also, mounting, exporting and uploading a video takes A LOT of time, by the time Yoshi announced the video they should have already been working on the recording, hence they should have known about the bug.
    Also, the fight can't be that buggy 5 days before the release... if it's still planned for 14/12.
    Also, if everytime they announce something it gets delayed something is just wrong, i'm actually wandering how will they manage to respect the long term schedule they set up for 2.0.

    So, this is exactly the attitude of an "indie developer" except indie games are awesome.
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